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BadassBOB

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posted January 17, 2001 03:42 PM

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Hi, i was wondering what u guy's thought of natural supplemetns that help u keep down side effects and work as anti estrogen.. I've heard of androstein, yohimbe, and tribulus..(tribulus the most)..on how they help keep side effects down..what do u guy's think...i have some clomids right now ..but i need more..if i can get more i'm all set..but if not i'm wondering what else i should throw in with em..to get help keep results..and lower side effects..thanks..


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BadassBOB

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posted January 17, 2001 03:44 PM

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I've also heard of a supplement called ECA..on this message board..what is it?..who has used it?..and what has it done for u?..just curious..thanks..


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MUSTANG_18

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posted January 17, 2001 06:08 PM

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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR FIRST QUESTION BUT TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION, ECA IS AN EPHEDRINE, CAFFINE AND ASPRINE STACK. IT IS USED MAINLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO CUT UP AND SOME PEOPLE TAKE IT BEFORE A WORKOUT TO GIVE THEM BETTER PUMPS. HOPE THIS HELPS

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Future One

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posted January 17, 2001 07:16 PM

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Whoah! going back to first grade!

Anyway, here's your answer:

There is NO supplement out there that has suppressed estrogen efficiently, although IMHO I think Soy Isoflavones could do it in theory. Andro will CAUSE more estrogen problems than prevent them. Yohimbe does NOTHING for blocking estrogen or raising testosterone. Tribulus can possibly raise Test levels, like Clomid, but has not show anti-estrogen like effect.

ECA is just the world's most hyped fat buning combination, it has been reharshed too many times to count. It's Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Aspirin stacked together.

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BigBill

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posted January 18, 2001 12:33 AM

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chyrsin, or trib for raising natural test levels

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HangingChad

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posted January 18, 2001 12:41 AM

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Look into flax seed oil. This is supposed to help lower estrogen levels if i'm not mistaken.


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vlaovic

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posted January 18, 2001 12:49 AM

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Chrysin is supposedly effective


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EmptyWallet

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posted January 18, 2001 12:55 AM

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i know that you werent suggesting andro as a way of lowering est levels. Bro all that shit does is convert to est in your body.

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MR. BMJ

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posted January 18, 2001 04:52 AM

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Indole-3-Carbinol is still up for grabs on its effectiveness. I just read an interesting abstract on it, and would like to know if any one else has had any success with this compound. Let me see if I can dig up the page:
http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/130/12/2927

MR. BMJ


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Curious George

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posted January 18, 2001 05:57 AM

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I read somewhere that Dan Duchaine noted a couple of things. This is from memory and it doesn't take the place of something like armidex.

lignen rich flax see oil
soy isoflavones
stinging nettle without pygeum
and there was something else too, sorry I forgot.

I would stick to novaldex or armidex myself.


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rainhorn

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posted January 18, 2001 07:18 AM

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stick with the basic ones


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shoulders

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posted January 18, 2001 07:55 AM

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I have read that fibre helps 'eliminate' estrogen as far as natural methods go. Maybe eat heaps of cauliflour and cabbage juiced as well so you get indoles plus fibre. Nicotine is supposed to be good for this but that is a drug.


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