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BigJay81

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posted January 16, 2001 11:08 PM

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ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT WE ARE REALLY INJECTING. I MEAN THE ESTER MUST WEIGH SOMETHING. ITS NOT ALL TEST IN THEIR.
REAL AMOUNT OF TEST INJECTED?

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KODIAK99

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posted January 16, 2001 11:10 PM

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Big Jay your firing on all cylinders tonight. . .ask a question I can answer. . .LOL

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BigJay81

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posted January 16, 2001 11:12 PM

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SORRY BIG FUCKING BEAR.LOL
I LOVE THAT NAME.

WHERE'S MY INJECTABLE CREATINE DAMNIT?lol


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BigJay81

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posted January 16, 2001 11:19 PM

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help please

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posted January 16, 2001 11:20 PM

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Where can I get a Creatine Injectible Kit...LMAO


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BigJay81

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posted January 16, 2001 11:22 PM

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Don't laugh at me Its real I need it for my sport Its the only drug not banned yet


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lawnsaver

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posted January 16, 2001 11:23 PM

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The longer lasting the ester is the more weight it has. Enanthate is a long lasting ester and there is 72mg of raw test in every 100mg dose. I have not seen any other ester weight, but prop would probably be around 85mg of raw test per 100mg dose. That was just a gestimate. Hope this helps a little.

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nahanrac

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posted January 16, 2001 11:28 PM

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According to the article about all tests being equal here on this site, 250 mg test enanthate consists of 70 mg of ester and 180mg of test. SO the ester is 28%.

I could calculate the rest, but don't have time at the moment. Plus I don't know the chemical formula for testosterone right off hand. If you are interested in knowing I'll do it later, shouldn't take too long. I could make a table that we could put up somewhere if anyone thinks it would be helpful.


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posted January 16, 2001 11:30 PM

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I hear the olympic committe is about to ban tuna because it enhanches athletic performance


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BigJay81

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posted January 16, 2001 11:32 PM

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Perfecto fellas I can calculate it. Wheres that artical I have been looking


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted January 16, 2001 11:44 PM

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The Andy guy who talks real scientific like, figured this out and posted it on the meso board.

Are you looking for Neoton too? I tried to check places in the UK but had no luck


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nahanrac

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posted January 17, 2001 02:51 AM

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https://www.elitefitness.com/articles/esters.html

Here is where the article is. Or you can follow the link at the top of your screen right now that says News/Articles. Other good stuff in there.

Seems like there was also a thread about this not too long ago, maybe a week or so. Someone listed a few different things.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 17, 2001 02:55 AM

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250mgs of enanthate = 180mgs of raw test
250mgs of sust = I got these figures from somewhere between: 190-210mgs of raw test (still looking into this one) So not 100% sure. Although I believe it should be less raw test because of the longer acting esters.

From what I have understood it is the other way around. I have been trying to get to the bottom of this for a long time. I know for 100% that 250mgs of enanthate = 180mgs.

Also 100mgs of primo is 100mgs of primo, believe they may be the wrong way round. Seems the longer acting the more ester. Test Suspension is 100% raw test. Prop slightly less and work on it from there.
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BigJay81

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posted January 17, 2001 03:04 AM

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Good stuff Thanks alot. It would really help if we all knew what we are actually puting into are bodies

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panerai

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posted January 17, 2001 03:05 AM

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Enanthate esther is heavier then all four in Sustanon? Are you sure? I don't know myself,just seems a little not logical,that's all.


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BigJay81

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Enanthate: Chemical Structure C7H14O2.
Also referred to as heptanoic acid; enanthic acid; enanthylic acid; heptylic acid; heptoic acid; Oenanthylic acid; Oenanthic acid. Enanthate is one of the most prominent esters used in steroid manufacture (most commonly seen with testosterone but is also used in other compounds like Primobolan Depot). Enanthate will release a steady (yet fluctuating as all esters are) level of hormone for approximately 10-14 days. Although in medicine enanthate compounds are often injected on a bi-weekly or monthly basis, athletes will inject at least weekly to help maintain a uniform blood level.
Cypionate: Chemical Structure C8H14O2.
Also referred to as Cyclopentylpropionic acid, cyclopentylpropionate. Cypionate is a very popular ester here in the U.S., although it is scarcely found outside this region. Its release duration is almost identical to enanthate (10-14 days), and the two are likewise thought to be interchangeable in U.S. medicine. Althletes commonly hold the belief than cypionate is more powerful than enanthate, although realistically there is little difference between the two. The enanthate ester is in fact slightly smaller than cypionate, and it therefore releases a small (perhaps a few milligrams) amount of steroid more in comparison


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posted January 17, 2001 09:58 AM

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BigJay, I'll make you some injectible creatine. . .I have tub of the shit in my kitchen. . .I'll add some water and throw it in a couple of 75ml bottles and ship it off to you...Warning. . .I'm the guy that fucked up fina 3x before making 1 correctly. LOL

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conan69

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posted January 17, 2001 10:17 AM

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It doesnt really matter, cause it is relative
Everyone goes by the label 200mg/ml (ex)
so they base their cycles and injection schedules on the product (not on how much test they really inject)

Is that important to you, are you in a pissing contest "i actually do 187.45mg of test

IT DOESNT MATTER
if you get great results from 1000mg of test (according to labels) then does it really matter that that is really like 876.45mg of test

NO

And everyone has been doing cycles for years and building there knowledge on the relative figures of the labels

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Propionate yields 84mgs of test per 100mgs

Cypionate yields 70mgs of test per 100mgs

Enanthate yields 72mgs of test per 100mgs

Phenylpropionate yields 66mgs of test per 100mgs


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BigJay81

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posted January 17, 2001 04:40 PM

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Don't fly off the handle Shit I asked a question. Maybee others want the same results they have allways gotten but I want my shit to be accurate. Damn Settle down.

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Doc Huge

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Ehh.. Basically what Conan said.. Amount of test thats on the f'n label??!! I must be missin' it. Yeah, there is some under-dosin' happening, but..

Didn't I say .. ohhh so scientific.

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BigJay81

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Oh thanks for the info Huck My eyes must have been crispy by the Flame fest Pointed in my direction.
I forgot my googles.LOL


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Have my beer googles on tonight LOL I can see two threads.

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