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Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
Well fellas here is my info... 6ft 203 9%bf I have 2 cycles under my belt... My goal is to gain as much as possible (~220) while dropping my bf (~3-5). I plan on trying this... w fina sus dbol eq primo anavar winny depot Clomid throughout and after... I am gonna probobly start in a month so that by the time summer starts I will be 220 shredded... Gonna stay lifting heavy bulking like a mofo first 8 weeks then go to a lower calorie diet high rep workout with cardio 3 x a week... Tell me what you guys think... I have a bum knee from acl surgury my platelar tendon is weak and I kinda was squatting 500lbs for a while which was fine while on deca but after well... I am thinking about throwing in deca a lil at the beginning about 200mg a week just to get the joints to retain water hopefully the eq will help while I get dried out on winny and fina... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 310 |
You might not want to run the fina that long. I haven't heard of anyone running it for 12 weeks without some kind of kidney pain. Maybe bump up the sust. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
I am taking low amounts of sus just cause the tren is so powerful I didn't want to over do it... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1313 |
Some may disagree but there is no point in taking sust at 250mgs. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1150 |
For my 3rd cycle, I did 250mg of sus for 10 weeks, I gained 10lbs and kept 6lbs. Not to impressive, but My strength went up. I raised my max bench 20lbs and with clomid therapy I kept all of it. I would make it a base to a cycle, but it will do something. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
Iron Game, So do you think I should go with ~500mg of sus? I didn't want to go to high this time but at 220 I guess it is gonna be time to go to 750 - 1000mg... I just didn't want to fuck up my next winter bulking cycle of test and deca... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1313 |
Vexed, in 250mgs of sust (one amp) there is between 190-210mgs of raw test. Naturally you can produce between 170-210mgs, based on an average 20 year old. These do change slightly as you get older. However training and diet can increase natural test. Basically what I am getting at is you would be shutting down natural levels and replacing with synthetic test. This practise 'in my opinion' is worthless. It would by far be better to up it to 500mgs. Peace ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 38 |
Bump the Sust.... The DOC loves the Test... always alot of Test.. All these fancys.. the fina and primo. Yeah, clean, but does anyone remember how we got so scientific. Take a large amount of Test and an oral. Do your Clo at the end, not throughout which seems to be in vogue. GLUCK> DOC HUGE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 19 |
I would run a test, preferably Aratest cause its alot cheaper, for about 8 weeks at 500-750, but if you have sust already that's cool. I would do the fina for about 6 weeks, starting at week 6, going to weeks 12 to help maintain and gain strength. I did this on my last cycle of Deca/Sust/Dbol/Fina, and I really liked it. I also like Fina better at 150mg EOD, no more sides than 75mg EOD IMO. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
Well cost isn't a worry sus cost me ~3.50 an amp, Cost was not a factor in any part of my cycle just thinking foward to my next one that is why my dosages are so low... I guess I can go to 500mg sus and maybe bump the fina up a lil... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
Just want to make sure I can use 750sus on my next bulk cycle cause I dont want to use a gram till i am 230-240 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 148 |
One thing no one has mentioned is the fact that Vexed is looking into the future. If a small amount of test is working for you... keep it low... that way in a few years you dont have to do 2000 mg of test just to see anything. I would put the fina at the end of your cycle for sure... wk 6-12. just my .02 ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
He hit the nail on the head that was what I was looking for... The only reason I was gonna use fina for the whole 12 is because it is a good cutting and bulking choice I bought 4grams of tren so I am gonna have ~50cc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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