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Crom

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posted January 15, 2001 11:52 AM

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Hi! First time writing on this board, but have been reading this and other boards extensively. Have been training for many years and have finally decided to push further on - but just slitely! I have decided on what to use and why - but I guess I need the approval from you experts before I go ahead and try.

I'm 178cm (I think that's around 5'9 or 5'10) and around 195-200lbs. My goal is to have gradual increase in strength and size but minimizing the side effects. My cycle will be: Primobolan 200mg/week for 8 weeks and 2 weeks with 100mg/1.week and 50mg/2.week of Clomid.

I know that the gains in size and strength will not be huge but like I said I want to keep the side effects to an absolute minimum, since I'm prone to acne and gyno.

I've read several places (for instance Angelfire.com and jpmassfactory.com) that you can achieve good results for first timers on this dose. A stack with Anavar would be ideal but is impossible to get hold of.

Having my goals in mind - do you agree?

Thanks in advance!

Crom


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rainhorn

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posted January 15, 2001 11:56 AM

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it s a bit low even for a first timer
i would stack it with somthing else if you cant get your hand on anavar.
would run the primo 400mg a week 8 weeks at least with d-bol.

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Iron Ghost

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posted January 15, 2001 12:02 PM

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Personally i would run the primo at 400mgs for the 10wks.Also,i think you should accept the fact that injecting drugs will bring some sides.It's all part of the game we play at the end of the day.
Good luck with what you decide to do.

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THE BOUNCER

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posted January 15, 2001 12:18 PM

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I KNOW YOU WANT TO KEEP SIDES TO MINIMUM BRO, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD ALSO WANT TO SEE SOME RESULTS AND WITH THAT DOSAGE YOU WONT SEE MUCH. JUST RAISE THE DOSAGE A LITTLE.


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Crom

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posted January 15, 2001 02:32 PM

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O.k., thanks for the advice! I guess it's very much like gambling; play with high risks, get high odds and either hit the jackpot or crash miserably - or - play with low risk, low odds and either harvest a reasonable winning or end up going even!

So, the question is if your'e a low risk person or high risk person? Hmmm....Gotta do some thinking! I'll be back....oops, is that copyrighted? ;-)

Crom


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nahanrac

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posted January 15, 2001 03:13 PM

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I can't so how much you could gain or anything, but I would try it if I were you. Alot of guys on here don't understand that not everyone wants to gain 30 lbs in a 6 week cycle. No offence meant, that's just the way a lot of them are. You could give it a shot, and if its not working add more. Surely you would gain something, and most likely keep it. You may also check into doing some short cycles, that's what I'm about to do. People do them with test enanthate, so primo should work too, although I don't know what doses to go with. If you already have the 18 ampules that you planned on using and don't want to get more, you might try 400 mg day 1 and then another 200 mg day 4 or 5. This may not give you a whole lot, but you could do it three times. If it doesn't work the first time, try the same thing with higher doses. If you put on four lbs you would end up gaining 12 all together and most likely keeping all of it. For info on short cycles do a search for Drexx and short, he posted some good threads. good luck.


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ex-infantry

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posted January 15, 2001 03:34 PM

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bro, i know you are wary about possible side effects, but let me tell you i was the exact same way...... my first cycle was primo with deca.... ran both at 400mg's for 8 weeks with not one single side effect..... i got lucky with not even getting deca dick.... so i think you should up your doses and stack.... its your first cycle, receptors are fresh.... make it count!!!

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Spunky

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posted January 15, 2001 03:41 PM

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I can understand you wanting to be careful. But primo at 200mg isn't going to do much, if anything. Throw in something else.. I would say test, but others would flame me for that. If you want to stay on low doses, do 200-300mg test along w/ the primo.


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Wfabrizio

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posted January 15, 2001 03:47 PM

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Crom, bit of a Conan the Barbarian fan are we??

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Crom

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posted January 15, 2001 03:48 PM

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Nice posts! Jeez! I had just made up my mind and now I'm kinda' thinking "what the hell, why not go for it"! Thing is though, as we all know everybody reacts differently and I think I would be pretty naive to think I could get away with stacking Primo with for instance Deca knowing that I already had bad acne and a touch of gyno as a teenager!

Beeing 32 now of course my bodys own test production is plunging, so.....damn, you got me thinking!!!

O.k., here's what I'll do: I'll go easy first time and see how my body reacts to the Primobolan. Then, for my second cycle (if all goes well with the first) I'll do a Primoteston/D-bol/Clomid+Nolvadex cycle wich I already have stashed in my cupboard keeping me motivated.

Yepp, there it is! Well, once again, thanks for the input guys, I needed the feedback!

Crom


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Crom

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posted January 15, 2001 04:00 PM

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Hehe.....WFabrizio, you said it ;-)

There can be only one AS! (That's Arnold S.- not roids!)

By the way, this post is being updated faster then my own crappy, piece of shit, slow *#&% modem can keep up with! At work it's fast as hell, but when I'm home like now it's frustratingly slow! Maybe if I spent a little more money on upgrading the damn thing instead of using them all on our favourite hobby??? Hmmm, maybe in my next life!

Also, I checked out another rookie's experience with 200mg Primobolan for 8 weeks (read newsletter "July 1" on www.Bigsport.com) and he reported excellent gains of 17 pounds and keeping nearly all of them with no sides, but like we know: everbody's different!

Crom


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bb4424

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posted January 15, 2001 04:11 PM

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Bullshit on 200 mg primo and 17 pounds of LBM.

Eata pizza a day and gain it, that is the only way.


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Crom

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posted January 15, 2001 04:28 PM

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Well, the guy went from 205 to 222 and was at 216 three weeks after the cycle. That's a gain of 11 lbs - it may not seem satisfying to many of you (bb4424?) but as a first cycle I think it's good also considering the very low side effects.

The drug profiles on Angelfire.com and jpmassfactory.com BOTH agree on that a first timer can get good results on a Primobolan only cycle and gain 10-12 pounds and keep it!


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