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el cubano

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posted January 14, 2001 03:26 PM

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I spend hours upon hours a day answering email questions about gear and sources and workouts and dieting etc. But frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of these ungrateful little pieces of shit who send you sarcastic disrespectful emails just because you didn't know the source they were checking about or because you tell them that prohormones are worthless etc. I mean seriously, I'm not getting paid for this shit. I do it cuz I like helping people but those few idiots who act like spoiled 12yr olds are ruining it for everyone else. Why is it so tough to just say, ok thanks anyway?

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Twisted91

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posted January 14, 2001 03:34 PM

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el cubano, you got mail.


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 14, 2001 03:35 PM

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You have always been nice and respectful to me and I very much appreciate that.
I fully agree that it is annoying to see some of the posts on here when people are far from mature - both in attitude or in age.

I thank you, all the mods, and the real members on this board.

I know this post looks really cheesy and like a suck up, but I sincerly do appreciate this board and would like to see it stay at a high quality.

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fooz

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posted January 14, 2001 03:38 PM

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I understand what you are saying, but i ask you don't give up on everyone. Half these people being as*holes are just mad cause they get screwed over and want someone to point the finger at. I know that you try to help out and they're people on here that respect you and thank you for helping, including me.


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Frackal

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posted January 14, 2001 03:45 PM

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Actually I'm not trying to suck any dicks here either, but most of the mods, particularly Ranger, (thanks bro!!) have been incredibly helpful in answering my questions as well as in other matters.


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benzo27

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posted January 14, 2001 03:48 PM

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If it's worth anything I will say Cuban that you have never steered me wrong. I'm sorry you are getting emails like that, but I have nothing but good things to say about you bro!! Thanks


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BigBill

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posted January 14, 2001 03:51 PM

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I want to say I have back and forth on this board for about a year under the username BigBilly and if it wasn't for you and E2 I would have never got started right and probably would have been scammed a few times I thank you very much for this.

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Dexter

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posted January 14, 2001 03:55 PM

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El Cubano, dammit, you're keeping me up way past bedtime -- just because you're so damned concientious!

I've asked myself, "Why is El Cubano spending all this on a board that has a psycho mod and an owner that doesn't really seem to care? Otherwise, the psycho mod would be history.

You have helped me a lot, and I appreciate it. And I have enjoyed the help and communications with the other good mods, too.

What the heck is happening here?

Dexter
a.k.a. Titus Antonicus


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blood_drinker

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posted January 14, 2001 04:02 PM

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I love this board. It's because of the willingness of the knowledgeable people to take time for you is what makes it great, in my opinion.

If someone is not grateful, disregard them!
They have no right to eat away your time like that!
Personally, if i were someone that everyone looked up to, id be selective as to how's emails i answer, because otherwise thered be nothing in it for me (personal satisfaction etc!)


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BigJay81

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posted January 14, 2001 04:05 PM

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HAVE TO BUMP IT FOR EL CUBANO YOUR ONE OF THE GOOD ONES

I SPEND HOURS MYSELF PLANNING CYCLES DIETS AND PROGRMAS FOR PEOPLE FOR FREE"IN PERSON I CHARGE ALOT"
ABD THEY GET PISSED BECAUSE I WON'T GIVE THEM A SOURCE. CRAZY PEOPLE IT ALLWAYS HAPPENS. BUT JUST KEEP ON GOING YOU ALLWAYS HELP OUT A FEW THAT REALLY NEED IT

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blood_drinker

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posted January 14, 2001 04:10 PM

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I love this board. It's because of the willingness of the knowledgeable people to take time for you is what makes it great, in my opinion.

If someone is not grateful, disregard them!
They have no right to eat away your time like that!
Personally, if i were someone that everyone looked up to, id be selective as to how's emails i answer, because otherwise thered be nothing in it for me (personal satisfaction etc!)


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Loophole Genetics

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posted January 14, 2001 04:10 PM

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I think you and all the other 'high-up-the-ladder people here are doing tremendous jobs, and I thank you all for that. Screw the assholes; who needs them. The reason this board does so extremely well is because of the expert advise you and the others give. Believe me, the majority of people that hang here are very grateful to you. Please, don't let the minority discourage you. Lots of folks need your expertise. Keep up the good work el cubano. (and of course, the other mods.


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vdevil

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posted January 14, 2001 04:14 PM

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El cu-bumpo


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freak daddy

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posted January 14, 2001 04:28 PM

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it's not just on this board el cubano! theres just to many ungrateful fucks in this nation. always having everything given to them at a drop of a dime, then when something does'nt go their way, they cry and complain like little bitchs. just spam block every ungrateful piece of shit that you have tried to help. i for one am thankful for the knowledge that i have been able to obtain since i have joined this board. thank you to you el cubano and the rest of the mods for always looking out for us!!!

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2Thick

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posted January 14, 2001 04:38 PM

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I never get disrespectful e-mails.

I guess I am just a nice guy...LOL.


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BigJay81

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posted January 14, 2001 04:40 PM

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Yea right and everyone who lives in Canada is "NICE" LOL
HAHAHA Your the good person of the board. I hope no one sends you bad mail. Your good to all


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ROIDRANGER

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posted January 14, 2001 04:44 PM

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just X there ass right off the board....cause theres been to much bullshit on this board lately....

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ROIDRANGER

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posted January 14, 2001 04:45 PM

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damn maybe i will end up going to the SELECT board?????

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Raphaelite

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posted January 14, 2001 04:48 PM

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ive gone out of my way and helped some people in the past, not just on this board, i know exactly what you mean. ive helped newbies with cycles, and training and dieting programs many times, and after they get what they want, they dont even have the curtisy to say, "hey i really appreciate your help" wtf? how hard is it? fuck, the worsed part is there are some very sincere people out there seeking help, and because of these ungrateful Piece of shits, i dont even like helping people anymore.

fuck, i feel you bro.


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Les

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posted January 14, 2001 04:51 PM

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I have to be honest here..if it weren't for guys like el cubano, i'd still be 195 lbs begging people to hook me up with steroids...much respect I have for you cubano, and I agree...shit, you don't owe us shit!!!..I think it takes someone who actually gives a fuck and bber's in general to do your job..once again thank you for your help this past year..


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The Ranger

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posted January 14, 2001 04:54 PM

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I get them all the time....just can't figure out why....heh heh heh heh

Ranger

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winstrol69

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posted January 14, 2001 04:54 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 2Thick:
I never get disrespectful e-mails.

I guess I am just a nice guy...LOL.


LOL


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Spunky

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posted January 14, 2001 04:57 PM

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El Cubano.. you bitch too much. =) J/K man! BTW, thanks for the help u gave me earlier today..


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BigQuadz

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posted January 14, 2001 04:59 PM

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I got a email not too long ago asking if I could point them in the right direction. I emailed him back and asked him to swear he isn't a cop law enforcment agent etc etc and i got a email back and it said " I am not a cop, law enforcment agent, postal inspector" with "Are you going to help me or not" at the end.

Fuck all of them, just quit helping, we will be that much bigger than they are.

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Spunky

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posted January 14, 2001 05:02 PM

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Even if he promised you he wasn't a cop.. so what? I think if a cop was wanting to bust someone he sure as hell wouldn't admit he's a cop.


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Raphaelite

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posted January 14, 2001 05:09 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by BigQuadz:
I got a email not too long ago asking if I could point them in the right direction. I emailed him back and asked him to swear he isn't a cop law enforcment agent etc etc and i got a email back and it said " I am not a cop, law enforcment agent, postal inspector" with "Are you going to help me or not" at the end.

i get that one waaaay to many times.
Fuck all of them, just quit helping, we will be that much bigger than they are.



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BigQuadz

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posted January 14, 2001 07:18 PM

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Well, if I request them to say that I pay close attention to how they respond and word things. You can tell alot by the way people talk.

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BIGGYSMALLZ

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posted January 14, 2001 07:25 PM

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BUMP!!

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Captain AnaboIic

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posted January 14, 2001 07:28 PM

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The mods have been good to me (Cubano,WCP,E2, in paticular) I know sometimes you can get impatient waiting on a source check..as i believe i did earlier, I apologize for my impatience. This board has been great and the mods have been really cool with me. I don't know if it was me that was in mind for this paticular post, but even if it wasn't i still apologize and hope everyone is cool with me.


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FUZZDOG

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posted January 14, 2001 07:31 PM

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I read a post on here a few days ago about cops and it being ok for them to say their not cops when trying to bust you. Personally, even if he can't legally say he's not, I'm sure that he would lie!

fuzzdog


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Hoss

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posted January 14, 2001 07:39 PM

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Don't let it get you down Bro, There are assholes everywhere in life...you give people the benefit of the doubt, and if they are assholes, you cut 'em loose.

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macavoy

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posted January 14, 2001 07:45 PM

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These are the smae people who dont treasure life and give thanks each day for being alive and,hopefully,well.. Im guessing most of the b.s. to mods and others if from the younger crowd(under23ish) that has yet to experience life....Perspective is golden. Im thankful for everyone(2thick,ranger,dexter,cuban,etc) who puts forth responsible input and shares their knowledge. Thx tons


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jersey boy

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posted January 14, 2001 07:50 PM

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Rather that sending so much time trying to castrating scammers, maybe we should spend some time posting these ungrateful assholes names.

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Spunky

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posted January 14, 2001 07:53 PM

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BigQuadz: You can tell alot by them by how they type?


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Bchemist

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posted January 14, 2001 08:02 PM

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I don't know why you waste your time. Your job as a moderator is to do source checks and make sure the board keeps with its mission statement (theme)....that's it. Tech support people make $15 per hour to start. That is what it sounds like you do. If I were you, I'd set up a website, take credit cards, and give paid consultations. Make the ingrates pay.


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Iron Mike

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posted January 14, 2001 08:09 PM

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Ban em fromthe board I reckon. Usually they're newbies who expect you to send em a list of your top ten preferred suppliers, and maybe a small sample of the goods they can expect as well as an ongoing counselling session and if anything goes wrong ever, with anything in their life, you're responsible.

But I mean, we should all bend over backwards to help the ungrateful pricks who have never done anything to further this scene or our cause/s - why? Cos surely they deserve it, don't they....? IronMike


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slabcat

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posted January 14, 2001 08:46 PM

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I'm very sorry that you've been made to feel like this cuban. The mods are often taken for granted here. A lot of us forget that they do this for free and for the benefit of others. I can't speak for everyone but I know that the majority of bros here appreciate what you guys do for us. I am extremely grateful to you particularly because of you pointing me in the right direction 9 months ago. 36 pounds later and the offer I made to you back then stands. If you're ever in my neck of the woods I'll be your free American schoufer for the week. Seriously though don't let a few dipshits influence how this board really feels toward you guys. Keep it up and thankyou.

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Eramthgin

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posted January 14, 2001 08:50 PM

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El is totally right and straight. He has been a great help to me and returned my emails quickly and honestly.

To everyone when some one does you a favor you owe them one more email thanking them for their help. It doesn't take long and is the right thing to do.

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Cornellius

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posted January 14, 2001 09:27 PM

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Thanks Decaman!!!! even tough he�s not a mod.
Thanks E2!!
Thanks 2Thick!!
Thanks el cubano!!

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bigpun

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posted January 14, 2001 09:31 PM

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Cubano, thanks for the quick reply to the emails and other help you gave me the other day. You are much appreciated by 97% of the board members.


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benzo27

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posted January 14, 2001 09:42 PM

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Cuban it sounds like you have a lot more love than hate here bro, so to hell with them guys talking crazy


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GAMUSCLES

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Hey Cuban. You are cool dude so don't let these little shits get you down. You have helped me countless times and typically within the same day. To hell with those that don't appreciate the time, effort and support you put into this Board. I appreciate it and I think I can safely say that the "true brotherhood" of this Board understands and appreciates you and all your hard work. To hell with all those other little fly-by-night ungrateful asswipes.


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posted January 14, 2001 11:05 PM

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Bump for the cuban


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el cubano

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posted January 14, 2001 11:07 PM

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BigQuadz your first statement is exactly what I'm talking about. Bchemist, I totally agree with you.

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Hardcore4Evr

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Bump this back up. El Cubano, among all the other mods do a damn good job keeping this board together. It makes me sick to see all these newbies that come on here, cluttering it up. If i were you, i wouldnt waste my time on it either. I would do like BChemist said, start your own website, take credit cards, etc. Then, give out all the good information. I know i have asked a ton of people for help. I do know, that i am grateful to you all. I appreciate everything you have done for me, and if it were not for this board, i wouldn't know half of the things i know now. I just wish all this corruption on here would end. So many deleted posts, and so many weird things are going on lately.

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Sean Summers

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posted January 14, 2001 11:23 PM

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I appreciate all the effort you put forth and all the help you provide. Please don't get discouraged by a few bad apples...keep up the good work.
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Lift Or Die

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posted January 14, 2001 11:38 PM

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The Cuban has always been helpful to me and quick to answer questions. Show the man some respect or get lost.

Thanks Cubano, you rule!


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Zenon323

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posted January 15, 2001 12:22 AM

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If I didn't have this board to post questions on I would still be thinking that the Winstrol I had was real, and I would have waited even longer - to take care of the abscess that had to get drained. I am a newbie here, and I am on this board daily and learn something new daily. Thanks guys and gals for all your wisdom. I may not post any replies to anything I read, but I am soaking it all up. I am truly thankful for those of you that take the time to answer the questions I do have. So Thanks again for providing invaluable information to me, and to those of us who are serious about this.


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pharmaguy98

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posted January 15, 2001 12:45 AM

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this is to cubano and all the mods actually. Until I came on this board over two years ago as Pharmaguy (which was erased when the board format changed), I was fucked over by local gym guys. Then I came on the boards and all my ailments were cured. Thanks to all the mods.


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ion

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posted January 15, 2001 01:07 AM

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I do feel funny asking for some of a moderators
time, knowing they're not getting paid for it,
and probably will never need me for anything,
and I will never get to return the favor.
I realise there are intangible benefits
that go with the mod status, but a "thank you"
just doesn't seem enough for specific, current,
and privledged info that can't always be bought
from registering to a site or list etc.

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bignate73

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posted January 15, 2001 01:36 AM

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bump for elcubano

keep your head up bro. help those that are courteous and humble, fuck those that rude and inconsiderate. thats a good rule of thumb for me basically.

peace

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rainhorn

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posted January 15, 2001 03:46 AM

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we all appriciate your work a lot

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Luca Brasi

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posted January 15, 2001 04:10 AM

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After all my time on the board I think this may be the thing that pisses me off more then anything else, so I am glad to see it finally addressed. I had a guy just yesterday tell me to "get fucked" because I would'nt give him a source after the guy (who I have never heard of) just emailed me demanding a source out of the blue.

Luca


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mike peters

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posted January 15, 2001 05:21 AM

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bump

thanx for your help bro


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Kingpin

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posted January 15, 2001 08:24 AM

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I'll bump for the cuban.
He's helped me before!
Thanks Bro!

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king conan

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posted January 15, 2001 08:30 AM

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MOST OF THE TIME EVEN WHEN SOMEONE FLAMES
YOU ITS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. THEIR JUST LOOKING
OUT FOR YOU!!!!

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ROIDRANGER

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posted January 15, 2001 01:14 PM

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bump-----

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E2

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posted January 15, 2001 01:20 PM

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Yup i agree completly, and for some reason it keeps getting worse and worse, just the other day some guy mailed me and asked about a source, then 10 mins later mailed me back giving me shit for not replying to him within those 10 minutes. WTF!!

I can't believe the way some of the people act.

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airtyme

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posted January 15, 2001 01:28 PM

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Some people just have no respect. Keep up the good work cuban!

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Dexter

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posted January 15, 2001 02:59 PM

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I can't believe the way some people act, either.

Geez. I hope it's not a result of the North American educational system.

Barely literate is okay with me. But politeness and responsibility are a must.

Bump for El Cubano and the other good mods -- you know who you are, and I appreciate the respectful and responsible attentiveness you have shown both to the board and to me. It is a tough job.

Frightening in a way. These weird people have guns, drivers licenses...and Internet access.

And there is a Psycho Mod, even, in my opinion,whom nobody seems to care about neutralizing. Strange.

Dexter
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Dexter

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posted January 16, 2001 01:49 AM

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From the international bumper.

Dexter
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powerlifter456

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posted January 16, 2001 01:57 AM

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I am the asshole who emailed e2 everyone. Since then i have apologized to him. E2 i thought i was forgiven, no need to make posts about it anymore. Anyways point is these guys do work hard and deserve a little credit from time to time. E2 also made a good point to me. Imagine being on 1500mgs of test a week and trying to answer a never ending pile of emails. Then some guys talks shit to you. Welp good job anyways mods, since i was a formally ingrate and now have mended and reformed my ways it just shows people can learn to be apprecitive of your services just give them time.

Ps E2 come on man, its not like i got away sky free. Im a cool novice now and my screen name went from powerlifter45 to powerlifter456


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strengthmonster

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posted January 16, 2001 07:57 AM

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el cubano, you're a good bro. These idiots should give you a break. I really don't think I'd have the patience to do your job.


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EmptyWallet

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posted January 16, 2001 11:33 AM

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I have been an ungrateful bastard in the past. Now I think I am better. Ill make my piece. Ranger, without you and biz I woulda been going down the wrong road. Thanks for your help and everything that you do to contribute to the board. Ill invite you to my wedding,......as soon as I learn to talk to girls without slobbering...

Thanks fellas

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mistermass

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posted January 16, 2001 11:42 AM

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All I can say I appreciate evrything you have helped me with. Which has been alot lately. So thanks again for all your help.

And all you a-hole's grow the hell up!!!


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Dexter

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posted January 16, 2001 03:46 PM

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Bump again from the geezer to The Cuban.

Too good of a thread to see it languish on page 2.

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