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 how many wks to run A GRAM OF TEST for????
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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never did gram before, so was wondering how long you guys think is the best, id figure 6-8wks of a gram--then 2wk taper at 500mg's. .....i have nile susto and testoviron amps, but not enough to do just one whole way thru, should i do one then other, mix it up, get more of the enanthate quickly(which i can)or it doesnt matter???? .....also im getting some of that ttkkyo deca, and was thinking of running that also at only 300mg or some eq at 200mg(one or the other, not both) for little boost of appetite or joint help while on all that test; is that a good idea or should i just wait till later and add it to all the after test goodies at higher doses and run the test alone??????? ///thanks/// ------------------ [This message has been edited by ROIDRANGER (edited January 12, 2001).]     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1479 |
8 weeks on a gram should be fine. Then taper down. Personally, I would mix the diff types of test up, but I don't think it will make a difference. I would say run the deca at 300mg throughout the cycle, i don't see a need for the EQ if u have the deca. But other people might think differently. If you run a gram for 8 weeks, I would recommend taking clomid for 3-4 weeks post cycle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
thanks SPUNKY, and yes i will be taking clomid-probaly start eod in a few wks here ...also i was saying deca or eq not both--just one at a low dose----sorry i was confusing on that... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1479 |
oh gotcha.. my bad. good luck, keep us updated. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 663 |
Im currently taking Aratest @ 1 gram per week. Will probably take a gram for 7-8 weeks, then taper down to 900, & 800mg. The deca, i would run a little higher than 300mg. Maybe, just depends on how you respond to it. Im running 600mg per week right now, but its only my first week, so i cant tell you how well its working. 300mg is a minimum. Shoot for around 400-500mg if you have the gear. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
normally id run the deca or eq in the higher range, but i just wanted to mainly see what the test will do at a gram, so it will be either low dose(appetite help) or none on test and not sure which one to pick; the higher doses come after: fina, winny, clen, prop, deca or eq..... .....right now im also taking 40mg of naps that i forgot to mention... ------------------ power to gain from the ROIDRANGER. [This message has been edited by ROIDRANGER (edited January 12, 2001).] [This message has been edited by ROIDRANGER (edited January 12, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 142 |
Bro, I would say as many weeks as you want but i would not do any more than 8 max...! Mix the two up it will give you good results better still throw your sust away cos its crap and run the enathate 1000mg's for six or 8 weeks. Im doing enathate at 1000mg's for six weeks soon...! I just LOVE enathate its the dogs bollock's as far as im concerned it will always be in my stack...! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 295 |
If decide to through sust away,let me know,I'll pay for shipping and you can send it to me. If not,start with Enanthate and finish with Sustanon.8-10 weeks,no taper down.Stack with Deca,300mg/week- more is not nessesery.Don't run Naposim for more then 4 weeks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
Sus is crap? I'm sure many will disagree. I've done them both w/ results. But I'd by far choose sus, cyp, or probaly any test over Enan. Just my opinion though... | ||
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Moderator 
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hey skippy i thing sust is crap anyway you can run the gram of test for the 8 weeks no need to taper a gram is not that much at all ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 841 |
I agree with Conan. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 743 |
ill bump for you RR.. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
why is sust. crap? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 663 |
Cypionate is great, that is, if what you find is actually legit anymore. And, what is this sust stuff guys? haha! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
anyone else???? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 743 |
ill bump for the late crew, since i laid my bike down yesterday and i wont be going out tonight(well maybe).... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
I've taken them all over the years, the sus is probably my favorite, I get good size and strength from it, and have usually used it alone. Cyp comes in a close 2nd, but combined with D-bol its awesome. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
any info on the thread???? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 |
Sus is crap b/c the prop and phenyl prop get wasted the first few weeks, unless you inject every day or stack it with additional prop. I would use a different test the first few weeks, then overlap it with the sus. And remember, if you are taking a gram of T200 a week, its more like 850mg.lol | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
I have been formulating a heavy cycle strategy taking into account the receptor upgrade theory. The next time I do an extended cycle, this is what it will look like: Week-----Enanthate---d-bol Obviously this is not recommended to anyone with less than a 3 cycle experience level. Note: The enanthate is divided into 3 equal doses per week. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
any taper or do you just get off after wk 8 of 1800mg????? also are you going to take any other anabolics right after or a little break(how long) or what??? very interested on hearing more about this... ... also do you front-load clomid or the normal routine... ///thanks/// ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
You have two choices.....10-20mg of a.m. d-bol or 20-40mg of anavar. Either would be very effective at maintaining after a heavy bulking cycle like that. Clomid should be front loaded at 300mg on day one following the cycle with two more weeks at 100mg. You should hold off on the orals until you have completed the clomid therapy. Note: I feel that you are better off dealing with a few bad post cycle days vs. a long, drawn-out recovery due to out-dated taper theories. [This message has been edited by Bchemist (edited January 14, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 27 |
roidranger: if the cycle is for 9 weeks (I like 9), run the gram of test for 6 weeks, then switch to propionate from weeks 7-9 at 100mg every day. This gets rid of the slower-acting (not slow, just slower than prop) test like cyp and enables you to still use a test for 9 weeks without it overlapping your clomid. prop is out within just a couple days. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 743 |
so your saying end cycle, clomid for two wks., then dbol for (?)wks----and why just dbol or anavar(orals)and say not //ie: fina, winny, eq, prop, clen----just wondering cause thats what i have off-hand??? that and never heard of taking dbols after a test/dbol cycle... ...SHAWN --ive been thinking that also.... ///thanks for your replies///// ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 682 |
////bump//// ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
Bchemist, Your post-cycle recovery strategy is very similar to the one I use. "You should hold off on the orals until you have completed the clomid therapy." Interesting. I didn't think that would be necessary. Could you give a brief explanation of the resoning behind this? I have been doing the a.m. orals concurrent with Clomid, but your way may be better. Thanks. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 818 |
interesting point windec. I was going to run a AM d-bol and clomid at the same time too, so I can get the anti-estro effect of the clomid. Haven't gotten to that point in my cycle though... Bchemist, how did it work when you tried the AM only thing? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
I have been taking 10mg of a.m. d-bol for awhile now. As a result, I have maintained everything from my last cycle. In fact, I believe that I have gained LBM in the past couple of weeks. I am feeling and functioning exactly like I did before I did my first cycle long ago when my body was at homeostasis (if that makes sense). The theory of a.m. d-bol is that if taken at that time, it will not interfere with the hpta since your test levels naturally plummet after waking. And with the clomid before the orals, that is just what I did last time and it worked very well. My personal theory is that your body should have some sort of "androgen free" period where your hpta can come back unhindered. Even though two weeks is not enough, it is a decent start. Then as clomid begins to lose its effectiveness and the hpta begins firing, you begin the orals. [This message has been edited by Bchemist (edited January 14, 2001).] |
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posted January 12, 2001 10:26 AM