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Moderator 
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***TAPERING*** How many if you berlaeve that tapering has a positive effect on your cycle..... Do you beleave tapering works????? My opinion to follow!!! This is very simple if you know the basics of cycling!! BIZ!! ------------------ GET BIG GUY'S!!!!!!!!!     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 179 |
i personally don't taper most of the things i take. I always start my dball high and keep it there for four weeks then drop it. I start sus high and keep it high also. I have taken small amounts of prop at the end of a high test cycle to help ease back down off the high dosages, but in general, i DON'T taper | ||
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Moderator
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I believe in tapering. The first reason is because my body has been reacting very good to it. Second is because I believe that because of the negative feedback system your endocrine system has. It usually takes about 2 weeks for the reaction to the negative feedback, which means that when you start tapering your body will notice that the androgen levels are decreasing and it will slowly begin to react. And, if you taper correctly it is possible that your natural test production could start to kick in at the end of your cycle. This is what I believe and it has been working for me. I lose very little after each cycle. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
When taking hormones of any kind, be it derived from the adrenal glands, pituitary, thyroid, testes or whatever it is not necessary to taper up. You can take the full dosage from the start. It is necessary to taper down, however, and with some hormones it is absolutely required (like with prednisone or thyroxine) Myomorph | ||
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Moderator
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Ok this is my opinion....... The common belief is that once the body dectects a lowering of the androgens in the body and compensates for by stablizing the hormonal levels........ Now.....For the body to restore it's "normal" hormonal levels it needs to read low adrogen levels... You figure your levels while on a high adrogen while tapering will continue to read those high levels at least three weeks after (sus250)dicontinueing the cycle..... In my opionion and my practice I stay at high doses for short periods of time and then I follow with the clomid....ect.... Tapering will delay hormonal rebound......... CLOMID,,,,HCG,,,,,NOVLADEX,,,,PROVION,,,,,ARMIDEX,,,,,,ECT..... BIZ!! ------------------ GET BIG GUY'S!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Freak 
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I would think the ester would make the juice self taper anyway. Such as sust. Now even if sust has reached its half-life it would still be stronger than your natural test levels are normally so why would your body kick up its production? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
Good question. But is it so simple to answer? Your body cannot begin to start natural testosterone production until androgen levels drop to natural levels. So tapering has no affect on restarting natural testosterone. But the question is, does tapering help maintain muscle mass? Perhaps it helps the body adjust to maintaining lean muscle size on declining amounts of testosterone, before you re-establish natural testosterone levels. I don't know if it does. Anyone know the answer to this? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 735 |
quote: Your body will not kick up it's hormonal production on it's own....this is the reason for clomid and hcg....It has to read low levels...I do not start clomid therapy until at leat 4 weeks after my last injection....I do not beleave that taperine anabolics will help maintain muscle mass....Proper cycling and clomid, and anties will help maintain muscle mass! BIZ!! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 735 |
Keep it coming!!! BIZ!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 131 |
In general I believe in tapering. I sort of follow El Cubano's line of reasoning... For me, I find if I taper it isn't just about the body adjusting to lower levels (since it will not start producing natural hormones jsut cos you drop from 750 to 300mg). It gives me a chance to stabilise and adjust psychologically, nutritionally etc to lower levels, and I find it also tends to cement gains for those couple of weeks you're tapering. This coming winter, when I hit up my next serious cycle, I will taper the test to about 200-300mg p/w for two weeks, probably dropping the deca for those weeks and kicking in the clomid, possibly finishing with some winnie. IronMike | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1564 |
I wonder if you body has a memory of its normal test levels. Lets just say for example is produced 100mg, once the sust tapered down to 99mg would it start it up again? I would think if that were the case then you would have to have a pre-cycle bloodwork to find your natural test levels and then somehow compute when the sust would be at this level or lower and then hit the clomid. It seems to me your body stops production all together whether you do 250mg per week or a gram. Again, that is just an idea, I could be talking out my ass! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 2094 |
Tapper?!?! Hell, I'm not going off! I have hear the word, and it says, "Thou Not Need Ever Come Off!" I think it sounded very much like a combination of E2's and Ulter's voice for some reason..... ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Guru
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THINKING ABOUT NOT COMING OFF EITHER. BUT I'M REALLY ON THE FENCE OF TAPERING. MANY GOOD ARGUMENTS FOR BOTH. HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH BEFORE I CAN DISCUSE/ ------------------
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 157 |
Bump | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 5 |
What about bridging tapering i only do when im short on product to extend a cycle or if im seeing side affects i dont like my body does not react well to high does of sus i agree with biz in a sense tapering is worthless its only going to slow down regaining natural test levels. but then again do a lot of users try to solidify there gains with primo you could say in a sense ther tapering??? you just dont ever come off thats the solution as lonf=g as your healthy yeah | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1564 |
bump ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 149 |
3 weeks on same dosages each week(high) and 1 drug--then 1 week off--then repeat with diff. drug--Your body never knows what the fuck is going on--And you can weed out alot of fast action shit that dont work for you!Stay on so to speak all year--obv. if you compete mix it up a little | ||
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Freak
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LOL@Warlobo I thought tapering was something you do when hanging dry wall. Sorry Biz. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I'll Be Back! ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1599 |
NO TAPERING UNLESS IT IS AN ORAL OR A VERY FAST ACTING INJECTABLE
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Moderator
Posts: 2094 |
Exactly Conan ------------------ Lobo |
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posted January 11, 2001 05:57 PM
