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Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 193 |
Can anything compare to clomids ability to bring your test levels back to normal? my source has closed shop and i now have no way to get more, i have a little left, but i know its not going to be enough. so anyone have any suggestions as to what i could take that would work nearly as well as clomid that is a legal supplement? thanks bros. EAST_COAST_BB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 224 |
Trib maybe...but not nearly as good ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 18 |
I would have to say that if anything will help, Chrysin and Tribulus Terrestis with DHEA would be the best. I have the same problem myself as of now, and I would like to know what everyone's opinion on this question is. As a matter of fact, I was just about to post this question! Good luck! ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 638 |
I would start Clomid immediately after you end your cycle and do it for 2-3 weeks. For the first week, keep it at 100mg per day, then the remainder should be kept at 50mg per day. Get some HCG too. I found this article on anabolic review, i believe IronGame had this posted too on another post, but here it is again. HCG boost natural test production. Read it.
Most athletes, however, use HCG at the end of a treatment in order to avoid a "crash," that is, to achieve the best possible transition into "natural training." A precondition, however, is that the steroid intake or dosage be reduced slowly and evenly before taking HCG. Although HCG causes a quick and significant increase of the endogenic plasma- testosterone level, unfortunately it is not a perfect remedy to prevent the loss of strength and mass at the end of a steroid treatment. Although HCG does stimulate endogenous testosterone production, it does not help in re-estab-lishing the normal hypothalamic/pituitary testicular axis. The hypothalamus and pituitary are still in a refractory state after prolonged steroid usage, and remain this way while HCG is being used, because the endogenous testosterone produced as a-result of the exogenous HCG represses the endogenous LH production. Once the HCG is discontinued, the athlete must still go through a re-adjustment period. This is merely delayed by the HCG use." For this reason experienced athletes often take Clomid and Clenbuterol following HCG intake or they immediately begin an-other steroid treatment. Some take HCG merely to get off the "steroids" for at least two to three weeks. HCG package insert states clearly that HCG "has no known effect of fat mobilization, appetite or sense of hunger, or body fat distribution." It further states, "HCG has not been demonstrated to be effective adjunctive therapy in the treatment of obesity, it does not increase fat losses beyond that resulting from caloric restriction. 6000 I.U. of HCG in a single injection resulted in elevated testosterone levels for six days after the injection. At a dosage of 1500 I.U. the pharmatestosterone level increases by 250-300% (2.5-3fold) com-pared to the initial value. The athlete should inject one HCG ampule every 5 days. Since the testosterone level remains considerably elevated for several days, it is unnecessary to inject HCG more than once every 5 days. The effective dosage for ath-letes is usually 2000-5000 I.U. per injection and should-as al-ready mentioned-be injected every 5 days. HCG should only be taken for a few weeks. If HCG is taken by male athletes over many weeks and in high dosages, it is possible that the testes will respond poorly to a later HCG intake and a release of the body's own LH. This could result in a permanent inadequate gonadal function. HCG can in part cause side effects similar to those of injectable testosterone. A higher testosterone production also goes hand in hand with an elevated estrogen level which could result in gynecomastia. This could manifest itself in a temporary growth of breasts or reinforce already existing breast growth in men. Farsighted athletes thus combine HCG with an antiestrogen. Male athletes also report more frequent erections and an increased sexual desire. In high doses it can cause acne vulgaris and the storing of minerals and water. The last point must especially be observed since the water retention which is possible through the use of HCG could give the muscle system a puffy and watery appear-ance. Athletes who have already increased their endogenous test-osterone level by taking Clomid and intend subsequently to take HCG could experience considerable water retention and distinct feminization symptoms (gynecomastia, tendency toward fat de-posits on the hips). This is due to the fact that high testosterone leads to a high conversion rate to estrogens. In very young ath-letes HCG, like anabolic steroids, can cause an early stunting of growth since it prematurely closes the epiphysial growth plates. Mood swings and high blood pressure can also be attributed to the intake of HCG. HCG's form of administration is also unusual. The substance choriongonadotropin is a white powdery freeze-dried substance which is usually used as a compress. Each package, for each HCG ampule, includes another ampule with an injection solution containing isotonic sodium chloride. This liq-uid, after both ampules have been opened in a sterile manner, is injected into the HCG ampule and mixed with the dried substance. The solution is then ready for use and should be injected intra-muscularly. If only part of the substance is injected the residual solution should be stored in the refrigerator. It is not necessary to store the unmixed HCG in the refrigerator; however, it should be kept out of light and below a temperature of 25* C.
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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 39 |
i think saleenpimp has pretty much covered all legal supplements closest to illegal drugs. other than hcg, noveldex & clomid i dont hava clue. good luck ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 193 |
hardcore4evr you didn't read the whole thing....i can't get clomid from my man anymore, he's gone. but thanks for the great info. anyone else have anything to through in? EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 193 |
BUMP 4 ME ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 12 |
Find another source! wHeLiXw ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 290 |
I can't post guy's addy here,because don't want to be blamed,as source poster,but if you go http://www.anabolicextreme.com you will find him,he only sells Clomid,Nolvadex,Arimidex,stuff like that,no gear,nothing illegal,that's why he's very open there.I'm not sure about how it's on this board,so just go there and look for yourself. And get those silly ideas about Clomid alternatives out of your head,grow up! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 253 |
Nolvadex, Arimidex from what I understand. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 193 |
thanks paneri, i needed that. later bro EAST_COAST_BB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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