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Author | Topic: how much protein can your body digest at once? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 213 |
for a 175lb person? ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 213 |
i know i know. it belongs on the diet board but give me a break. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 96 |
A college football trainer/strength coach at a Big Ten college said that about 40 grams per serving was the maximum that could be absorbed. Others on the board have said that figure could be much higher depending on what you eat, who eats it, blah blah blah. So no one really knows. Just keep eating. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 59 |
Most of my meals will be aleast 50grams & some times as high as 90grams i weigh 195 you can tell if you are taking in to much your farts will run you out of the room | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 740 |
I HAVE ALSO WANTED TO KNOW MYSELF. I AM SURE THERE IS A FEW KNOWLEGEBLE BROS ON THE BOARD THAT CAN TELL US FOR SURE. SO I WILL BUMP THIS FOR YA! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 240 |
It depends on the protein source and what it is eaten along with. Other foods can inhibit the absorbtion of protein. If you eat protein within a meal, you have fat, carbs, and protein being absorbed through the small intestinal linning. Once these foods reach the large intestine, absorbtion of macromolecules ceases. The foods that are eaten along with the protein will be the ultimate factor determining how much of the protein that is in that food will pass through the intestinal linning before it hits the colon (large intestine). Liquid proteins would be absorbed faster because they require less digestion before they can pass through the small pores in the intestinal walls. Solid foods must pass through many feet of the intestine while undergoing digestion the whole way until they are finally digested enough to pass through. Picture a piece of cheese sliding down a cheese grader. The block of cheese is too big to pass through the cheese grader's pores. As the cheese block passes along, it is digested by the sharp edges until eventually only a very small block of cheese is left. That small block of cheese is protein that didn't get absorbed. The digestability rating of a protein basically tells how hard the body will have to work to separate the proteins during digestion and the ease of down grading them into amino acids so they may pass through the intestinal lining. -Stew | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 150 |
Common practise is 40g. There are certain enzymes that will aid in digestion and may perhaps double that. I have seen some more expensive proteins claim to have extra enzymes that help you digest up to 60g per server, after trying it I would say you could go even higher than that with those proteing. I believe the name brand was 'Ultimate 36', great stuff, absolutaly loved it but it was 2x the price of the normal stuff... Just eat 30g every hour while juicing!!! ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 951 |
here we go again. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 638 |
StewMeat...what a great reply! I myself, feel that every persons body is different, so one person may be able to digest 40g and one may be able to digest 90g. I usually keep it in the 50-70 range. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 213 |
great post stew. thanks alot guys | ||
Guru Posts: 2187 |
2 questions. . .doesn't it depend on the person, size, age, activity, digestion seems to be an individual thing??? and doesn't the use of AS increase the bodies ability to absorb and use protien????? ------------------ | ||
Guru Posts: 4477 |
WELL I THINK KNOW ONE KNOWS AND THEY WON'T "EVERY ONE IS DIFF" JAy ------------------
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 262 |
MOST WEIGHT TRAINERS USE 50 GRAMS AS A BENCHMARK. TRY TO CONSUME 50 TO 60 GRAMS PER MEAL AND YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING YOUR DAILY REQUIREMENTS FOR MUSCLE GROWTH. GO WITH 1.5 TO 2 GRAMS PER LB OF BODYWEIGHT. IE.(200 LB BODYBUILDER SHOULD CONSUME 300-400 GRAMS OF PROTIEN. NOW LET'S SAY HE WILL EAT 6 MEALS BASED ON 300 GRAMS FOR THE DAY. EACH MEAL WOULD HAVE TO BE 50 GRAMS. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 44 |
Absorbtion definitley depends on a lot of things. I was talking to this lady in my gym who was doing some research to get her Dr. (I forgot what her Ph. D was in exactly but I do remember it had to do w/ the exercise and the body). Anyhow she was asking people to take surveys for her to see how many diff types supplements they took. So we began talking about supplements and I asked her if the protein you take after a workout really benefits you and she said that the studies she's seen show very little benefit from protein shakes. She said it's just not possible to digest all of that protein. So I asked her if taking steroids would aid in the absorbtion and she said yes. She said it was basically one of the only ways to absorb large amounts of protein and benefit from it. To tell you the truth I've noticed that when I'm off AS and I take protein shakes that it goes right through me but when I'm on AS I don't see a difference even though I'm taking extra of that protein. [This message has been edited by Charles Ray (edited January 11, 2001).] | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 240 |
Notice that I didn't say exactly how much protein you could absorb/digest/... at one time. This is because everyone is different. Intestinal contractions can be faster in some and move food along toward the colon at accelerated rates allowing less time for absorbtion. People would also differ in the number of enzymes present in their gut to help break the protien down. I know that the intestinal pores can actually be widened by some chemicals. This adds super absorbtion of protein but it also allows bacteria an easier portal of entry into the bloodstream. Reasearch has been conducted on the effects of temperarily dialating the pores to allow extra absorbtion but the risks (of infection) out weighed the poteintial benefits. As far as how much protein should be consumed per meal and how much can be consumed: Here's some research I'd like to do if I were a biological reasearch scientist (stay with me on this): In other words, those injecting 500mg of Sust. maybe could benefit from 3g/lb while those of 250mg of Sust. may not see more benefit. Here's the way I see the amount of protein required per meal. If not on AS 1.5g/lb of a 200lb person would be 300g. At 6 meals per day, that would be 50g/meal. -Stew [This message has been edited by Stew Meat (edited January 11, 2001).] | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 318 |
great reply Stew! You are a very knowledgable bro when it comes to protein. As a rule of thumb, I shoot for 50g of a protein per meal or drink. I think that is a good benchmark for people to use. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 181 |
I have heard that your body can use 25g at a time. I don't know what the effect of steroids or different forms of protein is on this digestability rate. btw, 1-1.5g of protein per lb of bodyweight while not on steroids, as a permanent diet strategy, is a recipe for ill health in the long-term. This is all I will say about protein as anyone who criticises it on this web-site comes under an immense amount of abuse and pressure to censor their opinions. Many opinions which don't conform are not welcome. p.s. no one bother to flame and abuse me for saying something bad about protein as I am entitled to my opinion. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 240 |
Izzy, I know you are looking for a flame on that one, but in fact, you are absolutely right! A diet this high in protein can wreak havoc on your body. There has been lots of research to prove this (I would be happy to give refrences to the research if needed). It all started back in the 80's when some bodybuilder broke his collar bone while benchpressing. Broken bones from muscular contractions have been common in individuals that have elevated strength. It was very common arm wrestling matches for someone to get a broken elbow. A study was done to find out why this happens. That bodybuilder with the broken collar bone was given an MRI. When they looked at the density of his bones, they found that he had the bone mass of a 70-80 year old woman! It was soon realized that high protein diets would cause bone disease. Heres an explanation: Refrences: Ok, I'm sick of writing refrences. If you want more email me. For all of them. The key is, make sure that you take a calcium supplement with additional protein consumption. Those on AS should definately take a calcium supplement to prevent catabilism of the bones. The nitrogen that is released from the amino acids also posses a problem. Amonia's chemical formula is NH2. Water is H20. When you take the N from amino acids and combine it with H2 from water, you get amonia. This amonia can destroy your kidneys. That's why it is imperitive that you drink at least one gallon of water per day if you are on AS. So yes, Izzy, you are right. High protein can definately have ill effects on the body. But these effects can be minimised or eliminated. I haven't researched this subject in a long time so there may be some new info out there. I should have mentioned these things before. It's sometimes easy to forget that not everyone knows these things. -Stew | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 239 |
Stew- you are smart. ...bd | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 284 |
I LIKE ALOT OF JUICE AND ALOT OF PROTEIN!!!! | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 240 |
bump | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 320 |
eat and drink a lot protein until you cant stand the farts... then do it again. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 147 |
hey did you guys ever here of papya enzymes, i knwo they help break down food, i wonder if they help with the absorbtion of protein as well? |
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