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The Man Child

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posted January 10, 2001 08:25 PM

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Test for Bulking
Primobolan Depot for Cutting
Clomid for getting your balls working

Its that simple.

What's the point in taking all of the high priced crap out there.

Lets evaluate the drugs out there:

Dbol/Anadrol/Test Suspension - quick gains that are very impressive, unfortunately you'll likely lose all of your gains made off these three drugs.

EQ/Winny/Anavar - Sure these work great. But unless your a damn millionaire it would be foolish to cycle these effectively. It will cost well over $1500 to get the desired results off a quality cycle of these three.

T3/Clen - Why take something that destroys hard earned muscle. Do you realize how hard it is to get that muscle and now your willing to lose it for a little trimmer waist line.

HGH/Insulin/DNP - Hey if you have the balls to take this shit then go ahead, but I don't. Besides to get a quality cycle off this stuff you'd better have a huge bank account.

**Testosterone/Primobolan** - Test is the muscle builder of all muscle builders. You can't go wrong. Its cheap and effective and always a mainstay in any quality cycle....Primobolan Depot, sure its expensive, but have you ever heard anyone have anything bad to say about this drug? No, all positive feedback. Just wait until Ttokkyo makes this stuff in 200mg/ML amps!!

To sum things up, it only makes sense to use Test and Primo as your primary drugs. They're relatively safe and I can guarantee you'll love the results off these two great steroids. Just give what I said some thought.


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JohnnyO

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posted January 10, 2001 08:28 PM

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So when you say use Test and Primo as primaries, are you advocating using them alone in a cycle or stacked with others?


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2Thick

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posted January 10, 2001 08:32 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The Man Child:
T3/Clen - Why take something that destroys hard earned muscle. Do you realize how hard it is to get that muscle and now your willing to lose it for a little trimmer waist line.

You should be clearer with your descriptions.

Clen by itself is highly anti-catabolic. It is great after a cycle to keep more of your gains.


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ulter

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posted January 10, 2001 08:35 PM

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EQ/Winny/Anavar = $1500

You ah, wanna buy a piece of land?

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Slopain

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posted January 10, 2001 08:37 PM

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Thanks for the input but no thanks.

EQ is cheap now a days, winny/anavar are not out of reach for me at all and they will continue to get cheaper in the coming months (competition is beutifull).

I dont see trenbalone acetate up there? Finas pretty damn cheap for what it does.

T3 taken with gear will help spare muscle while losing that fat.

I do like Test and primobolan but why waste so many other options you have at your disposal?

btw: You will actually hear alot of negative things about primo - hair loss is a factor for many and its relative weakness.

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benzo27

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posted January 10, 2001 08:43 PM

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I have to say that though I have never done fina it looks pretty cheap to me. I have heard good thing about it too


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Myomorph

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posted January 10, 2001 08:44 PM

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I haven't done a cycle yet, and wont for some time. But I do realize that each of us have individual needs--needs that can be met more effectively by certain drugs over others. I don't think its fair to say that if people want to use drugs they should only think about 2 of them. What doesn't work for one person can be the greatest thing since slided bread for another. Have an open mind. Thats why I am here--to learn about everything out there and make informed decisions.

Not having taken steroids myself, if I had to choose only 2 to examine it would be Nandrolone and Methandrostenolone.


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ulter

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posted January 10, 2001 08:56 PM

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Myomorph Before this is all over you will need test. Remember you heard it here first. heh heh

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lizzy

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posted January 11, 2001 08:07 AM

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I have to second Man-Child's endorsement of primobolan. I think that if you can afford it you should make it the basis of every cycle. I would use it even during a strong 17AA cycle. Its fantastic stuff


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 11, 2001 08:13 AM

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test for bulking but not for cutting? & I agree with 2Thick on the clen. It doesnt destroy muscle, it helps retain it.

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The Man Child

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posted January 11, 2001 02:44 PM

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From my personal experiences:

17aa steroids are a big no no - Winny works but come on guys, you have to take a huge amount of the drug and that gets expensive. Anavar is the same way, sure it works but it gets really expensive, $150 a week for 8 weeks is damn expensive.

T3, sure it makes you lose all of that pesky bodyfat, but at a high expense. I'm actually thinking of experimenting with it. Clen sucks in my opinion. It plain and simple doesn't work.

Primo is great for cutting.
Test is great for both cutting and bulking.

Dbol and Anadrol suck big ass, I'll quote 2thick on this one. "gear whores" gear teasers. Get big quick and soon you'll lose all those gains.

Hey I'll use anything, but I think people are mixing and matching 4, 5, 6 different types of steroids in one cycle is rediculous.
OVERKILL!! and you'll make just as good gains off the fewer products you use.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 11, 2001 02:53 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The Man Child:
From my personal experiences:

17aa steroids are a big no


No dbol, No Anadrol, No Winny, No way bro. I can see where you are coming from but these drugs wouldnt be on the market if all steroids were created equal and all caused exactly the same action.

Take eq and deca, deca causes a lot more water retention than eq but the eq helps stimulate appetite. Different anabolic androgenic steroids have different effects, some people respond better to certain kinds. Experiment to see what works for you. No need to stick to the basics.

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scubasteve

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posted January 11, 2001 03:04 PM

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The Man Child,

I am glad to see your post, that is exactly the cycle I am on. Tes200 and Primobolan, both enanthates. Very small quantity and I am getting unreal gains.

Thanks for the info.


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The Man Child

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posted January 11, 2001 04:26 PM

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Scubasteve, great name by the way! I just see all of these outragious cycles on the board now and again and I just laugh. Maybe its all talk on the board or something, but I know multiple bros in my town that take small to moderate doses, me being one of them and I make awesome gains.

Test is the one exception where extreme doses are accepted.

Whatever happened to the days where if somebody wanted to get ripped they'd take an ECA and do morning cardio? Personally I think everyone is just being lazy. I can tell all of the newbies out there that the fun part is the journey it takes to reach your goals and not the actual accomplishment.

I also don't really agree with the way people on the board say you either have to cut or bulk and that there's no in between. My best friend will do Test Prop/ECA for 8 weeks at a time and gain 15 or so pounds. He does this two times a year and he's 265lb. with 6%bodyfat. Awesome!!!

All I'm really saying here is that most of the guys on the board are relying too heavily on their drugs and need to get "back to the basics"

I'm out...........


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d1734

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posted January 11, 2001 05:52 PM

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You got a point but you are wrong at the same time. Winny/Anadrol is great gains with little water retention. Deca/Winny may be the mildest cycle in terms of side effects you can possibly take. Hell, your skin would clear up on a cycle of that. Insulin is great shit, IMO. Have to reserve comment on the DNP for now, but I plan to do several cycles of it too.


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