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Keep it beefy

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posted January 10, 2001 06:51 PM

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I have sust, primo, and winny(and clen). I know other things would be better for cutting for instance fina or eq, but I don't have them. So I'm going to see what I can do with what I got. Just wondering what are your thoughts on using sust and winny for a 10 cutting cycle with some clen in the end? Do you think it'll be very effective?


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posted January 10, 2001 07:20 PM

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posted January 10, 2001 07:23 PM

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posted January 10, 2001 07:25 PM

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i know clen is a deterent for the catabolic state, which will help you keep some of your gains and it is also a fat burner because it raises your body temp. i will be using clen the week of my last shot for 6 weeks.


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posted January 10, 2001 09:12 PM

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Well, I know the effects of clen. I'm using it now on a four week cycle before my next cycle starts on the 16th. What I'm more interested in is the prospects of a cycle for cutting using sust and winny? Any thoughts anyone?


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 10, 2001 11:49 PM

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Well, test is always good to include in a pre-contest or cutting cycle. Im currently taking Aratest/Deca/Winny/Clen/ECA/Cynomel. Yeah, i dont mess around, but im out to win. I would recommend Aratest over sust for its price, and that it is all in one vial.

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted January 11, 2001 12:39 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Hardcore4Evr:
Im currently taking Aratest/Deca/Winny/Clen/ECA/Cynomel. Yeah, i dont mess around, but im out to win. I would recommend Aratest over sust for its price, and that it is all in one vial.


What dosage of aratest do you use when cutting? I am looking into adding some test to my cutting cycle, but it's my first one(not first cycle, but my first cutting cycle). Any info will help Thanks

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posted January 11, 2001 03:25 AM

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Aight last thing, and then I'll stop bumping this. Some have said that sust is good to include (because it's a test), others have said that it's not really a good addition. Should I add the sust, or just do primo and winny? Again, I don't have any other gear right now, and I don't want to get any more right now, but work with what I've got.


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panerai

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posted January 11, 2001 03:40 AM

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Sustanon is very good for cutting.And don't be shy with dosage,use same amount as if for bulking.The key here is going to be diet and cardio.And that's much more important then drugs that will supplement.While restricting calories intake and doing lots of cardio,Sustanon will help you to preserve muscles.Use ECA stack while on cycle,Clen after for 2weeks on 2 weeks off,alternating with ECA.Keep protein high all the way through.When start,eat clean,but keep amount of carbs the same,raise cardio dramatically,monitor your progress and bodyweight,if after few weeks you're not happy with the way things are going,slowly cut some carbs and add more cardio.Make sure you supplement with flax seed oil.
BTW,you probably didn't know ,but even such a bulking drug as Anadrol considered to be excellent cutting drug,it's all about how you use things.


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posted January 11, 2001 03:47 AM

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What's the flax seed oil for? Thanks for your help.


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panerai

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posted January 11, 2001 04:35 AM

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The Ghost

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posted January 11, 2001 10:06 AM

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Panerai, excellent advice my friend. The only thing I have to add to what you said is that I would add some Nolvadex or something in order to keep water retention down while on certain drugs that promote water retention. Or, you could just cut the test out of you cycle about 4 weeks out from your target date in order to get rid of some water by the time your cycle is over. That is provided you are trying to acheive that really cut look. If you are just looking to lean out, then you will be okay without the Nolvadex. Hope this helps ya out!

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 11, 2001 11:33 AM

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Orchitis, i am using 1 gram per week of Aratest right now. I will probably keep it at that for the first 6 or 7 weeks in my cycle, then maybe go to 900, then 800. I will cut the test from my cycle 2 weeks out from my contest, so if im holding any water from it, it will go away. Im also using Nolvadex the last 2 weeks before the show, at 20mg per day, to get rid of anymore water weight. This is only my 2nd cycle actually, so i know my dosages are high, but i feel it works for me. Others are different. You may only need 500mg per week instead. Start at maybe 750mg for the first 5 weeks, then for the rest keep it at 500mg. Add some winny, primo, clen & ECA, EQ to your stack if you have the cash.

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted January 11, 2001 11:39 AM

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Hardcore4Evr, thanks for the info bro. You obviously look like you know what you are doing. I have never tried a cutting cycle, so I am trying to get all the ideas & info I can. Thanks again for you help.

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 11, 2001 11:42 AM

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Well, dont give me all the credit! I learned almost everything i know from guys like 2Thick, E2, Warlobo, Dex, Huck, BigJay, Flexed1, etc. You know who you are. These guys, and most others on this board are always here to help. This is like our 2nd home! If i can do anything, dont hesitate emailing me.

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