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stalker

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posted January 10, 2001 02:15 PM

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While doing some research on the best protein bars out there tastewise, I ran across a post where a guy stated he had read an article about a professor who did a study and found that most of the protein in a bar was unavailable to the body. Something along the lines of being indigestible as well as low quality.

Not having access to a med database, can anyone run a search on this topic? I don't want to be wasting $2 a bar if I'm better off eating some yogurt or beef jerky in between meals.


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whodaman

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posted January 10, 2001 02:17 PM

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what do you mean by unavailable? Do you mean that the body can't process most of the protein? I agree though...for the price of a protein bar, I would rather buy two cans of tuna.


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stalker

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posted January 10, 2001 02:20 PM

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He didn't go into much detail. But yes, I assume he meant that your body couldn't digest it well enough for the aminos.

Amen on the tuna. Maybe I can wrap some tuna up in cellophane and sell "tuna bars", so you don't need a can opener. Any takers???


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scubasteve

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posted January 10, 2001 02:23 PM

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Someone should come up with Sushi tuna rolls to go. You get tuna, rice and seaweed all wrapped in one.


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browndog1

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posted January 10, 2001 02:24 PM

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Tuna in cellophane...hmmmm....kind of reminds me of that stuff I used to eat back in the day...what was that called??.....oh yeah...pussy.


...bd


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The Ghost

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posted January 10, 2001 03:27 PM

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You know Stalker, I don't doubt it one bit. That professor is probably right. Now watch all the muscle rags come out and defend their shitty products after that article. I would much rather spend my $2 on a gallon of skim milk or a couple cans of tuna or whatever. You will grow much better on real food than you will on that engineered filth.

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted January 10, 2001 03:53 PM

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I read something on this topic in a post a few weeks ago. Soemone said something like "protein bars have a lesser amount of absorbable protein than they actually claim to have. Like, if a bar says it contains 30 grams then it might really have 20 or 25 grams. This is how I understood the post, but I might be wrong here. Does anyone remember the post? I'm gonna look for it in the search.

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NJstacked

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posted January 10, 2001 04:12 PM

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NATURES BEST___"SOLID PROTEIN" peanut butter flavor is the absolute best tasting. I have literally tried them all and Solid Protein tastes the best and has great Protein to carb ration. Correct me if I am wrong but I think 35g protein with 11gms of carb and 3gms of fat... Really Good!!!! Protein bars cannot compare to mixing your own whey shakes, but they are a convenient way to get a snack in and curb appetite!


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Recoome

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posted January 10, 2001 04:31 PM

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I read somewhere that most bars have 'hydrolyzed' protein, which is toenail and hoof protein or something like that. If protein bars cost as much as regular candy bars, around 50 cents, I wouldn't care!


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Kingpin

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posted January 10, 2001 04:36 PM

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I agree that a peanut butter sandwich is a better alternative than a protein bar.
They are expensive, taste like crap, and are mostly marketing hype.
I'd rather eat real food instead.

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Montecristo

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posted January 10, 2001 04:45 PM

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There are alot of really bad protein bars out there. It seem like you guys aren't getting into eating them. Maybe I will research making them, sicne I need a new sideline... I don't eat those because they can be as much as C$5 each around here for 30g's Protein... What a waste when I can get 30x that for only 10x as much from powder...

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Stew Meat

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posted January 10, 2001 05:06 PM

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Actually, you couldn't be further from the truth about hydralized protein. A hydrolyzed protein is partially digested into peptides, or short amino chains, (amino acids are held together by peptide bonds) to make it more digestable and extremely soluable. They are absorbed a lot faster than regular proteins so they are excellent for use before or after workouts.
The quality of a protein bar is determined by the quality of the protien in it as well as the temperature (if any) that it is cooked at. Extreme high temps can denature the protein. Look for bars that are derived from whey isolate sources.

-Stew


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rugger

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posted January 10, 2001 06:11 PM

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StewMeat, could you provide some of the data you are referring to regarding the (bio)availability (and quality) of hydrolized protein. Cause, I can eat the hell outta gummi bears and jell-o! But seriously, I would like to see some documentation on it, Amino Fuel and those hydrolized protein drinks are easy to slam, barring the taste. I haven't used them in years, because I thought they were crap.
I am having serious stomach (heartburn, acid reflux, barret's esophagus, feels like death) problems with whey. I have almost given up on most of the protein drinks. I have seen your ads, so please, just the documentation on the hydro protein.

Thanks,
Rugger


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Raphaelite

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posted January 10, 2001 06:16 PM

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i make my own protein bars. it is made from whey, and powderend milk. i just sustituted ingredient, from a fig neuton bar recipe, it dosent taste the greatest, but itll do the job.


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musclestud

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posted January 10, 2001 06:18 PM

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Listen to StewMeat, it is the quality of the protein that counts!! Most bars out there suck because they focus on quantity and taste rather than quality. Try the Twinlab Fuel Plex Bar Dutch Apple flavored; good quality and not too bad tasting(at least compared to the others). If it tastes too good, it usually is shit.


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Stew Meat

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posted January 10, 2001 06:35 PM

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I don't have the documentation on hand. I just know why manufactors use the method. It makes it more soluable in water and aids bioavailability.
Any time you split a protein (or any macromolecule) up into smaller parts, you increase the rate of absorbtion by the small intestines (the reason should be obvious). If you take a protein supplement composed of amino acids only, it is the most absorbable. Amino acids compose protein and amino acid supplements are simply predigested protein. It is a much smaller molecule so it passes more redially through the walls of the small intestine.
The hydrolized whey protein is partially digested. It is broken down into peptides. Peptides are small chains of amino acids. A protein is composed of many peptides. The name "peptides" comes from the molecular bond between amino acids, a peptide bond.

Hydrolized proteins are 9 times out of 10 not worth the money. If you have a high quality protien source, the digestability will be high anyway. Why pay a lab to do what you body will do anyway!

Your stomach is hurting because of the undigestability of your protein source. Send me enough money to cover ship/hand and I will send you some protein that will not cause you any discomfort whatsoever. I guarantee it. It also has a digestability of 98%! That is super high and I do have documentation on that.

-Stew


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GetHuge

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posted January 10, 2001 07:05 PM

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The reason is that the Hydrolyzed protein is collagen or gelatin, which can't be assimilated by the human body.


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Wfabrizio

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posted January 10, 2001 07:11 PM

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All I know is that the new Nitrotech bar will put 20lbs of LBM on you within 1 month!

LOL

Myself I prefer real food. A small or medium sized can of tuna is cheaper, has more protein, and tastes better (at least in my opinion-every bar that tastes good has too much sugar in it).

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2Thick

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posted January 10, 2001 08:39 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by browndog1:
Tuna in cellophane...hmmmm....kind of reminds me of that stuff I used to eat back in the day...what was that called??.....oh yeah...pussy.


...bd


Hahahahahahaha!


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ArnoldWannaBe

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posted January 10, 2001 09:41 PM

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Starkist should start feeding mayonnaise to tuna fish. It would save me a step or two when snack time hits.


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