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Bush Pig

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posted January 09, 2001 10:15 AM

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I am looking to harden up and gain some strength without gaining much weight. What kind of results could I expect from a 7 week course of winny (200mgs a week split into 4x50mg shots) and anavar (30mgs e/d)?

I will be about 230lbs when I start.


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WinDec

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posted January 09, 2001 10:29 AM

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You could average 2 lbs. of fat lost per week without any trouble at all on that course, I think, if you adhere to a restricted calorie diet.

Bump up the Winny to an injection per day (50mg,) and you might gain some LBM, as well (although probably not much.)

God luck.


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Bush Pig

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posted January 09, 2001 10:32 AM

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What would the strenght gains be like?

As I said, just really looking to harden up at the moment.

Cheers


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WinDec

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posted January 09, 2001 10:37 AM

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I don't think you are planning to take enough total miligrams per week (either 410, your way, or even 560, mine) to gain a whole lot of strength, if any.

It is much easier (and requires far less gear) to maintain muscle mass while dieting than to build size and/or strength.


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Bush Pig

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posted January 09, 2001 10:49 AM

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Any suggestions then WinDec?


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WinDec

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posted January 09, 2001 11:23 AM

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Suggestions? Sure, but it is going to get expensive, because of the agents you have chosen...

Go with 50 mg Winny per day and 60 mg Oxandrolone per day (divided doses; minimum 3x20mg each day, 4x15mg would be even better.) Also, add in a very small amount of testosterone (I assume the reason you you chose W/O is to avoid exposure to test, so I am not advocating a high dose.) One Sust250 per week should do it, without any side effects to speak of (but take a double dose, 500 mg, on week one.)

The above should give you fairly appreciable strength gains, while also allowing you to slim down. However, bear in mind that your two goals, to lose fat and gain strength, are somewhat incompatable. In other words, you cannot maximize either without adversely effecting the other. You can, however, do a little bit of each.


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Bush Pig

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posted January 09, 2001 11:39 AM

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How about go with the 50 mg a day winny and just 500mgs sus throughout?

Not that fussed on fat loss, just don't want to bloat or put on any excess fat.

Anyone else?


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WinDec

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posted January 09, 2001 12:33 PM

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Oh, if that is the case, just invest the money you will save from dropping the Oxandrolone in some Arimidex. At 1 mg per day, it will allow you to take as much sust as you want (within some reason) with absolutely no bloat, whatsoever.

You will definitely increase strength on a moderate/heavy test cycle!

Good luck, whatever you decide.


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Fe3

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posted January 09, 2001 12:36 PM

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That is one of the best stacks i have ever taken, BUTBUTBUTBUTBUT-
I would get my body fat under 9% before i do it. Anavar doesn't show too much unless you are low on B.F. And winstrol with low body fat will turn you into a f'ing greek statue.
Thumbs up!!


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ripped103

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posted January 09, 2001 12:36 PM

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do 50mg anavar a day and keep the winny the same, now add in clems and eca and youll do just fine.got down to a 29 waist last summer on this cycle.i also was doing 200mg primo


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