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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 09, 2001 08:17 AM

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Ok, first off a quick thanks to those who have been answering my questions over the last few days. The answers have helped me construct this. Below my theory behind this cycle. I am looking for some constructive crticism and advice but no flames

After 6-7 wks my gains while on tend to come to a halt so I am keeping this short. The Primo is in there to help keep gains as is the clen for its anticatabolic properties (also possibly dropping a few pounds of fat but thats not my main priority). I suffer while on from acne and stretch marks, the later quite badly.

The dianabol is only going to be used for 4 weeks because cypionate is somewhat of a fast acting test. Also to combat water retention I am going to be using 50mgs of proviron and 20mgs of nolvadex daily. After 3 wks the proviron will stop for 10 days and clomid will be used with nolva instead of the proviron. T3 at 25mcgs/day from week 2-7 to aid with protein synthesis. I will shoot 5000 iu's of hcg in week 6 split into 3 injections in that week. Proviron / Nolva / Clomid all going to be used at this time to help with estrogen. Clomid will be used from wk 7 to wk 10 at 300mgs for the first day, 200mgs for day 2 and 3, 100mgs for one week and 50mgs/day for the following 2 weeks.

My size & Diet are as follows: 246lbs currently and 14.2% bodyfat as of yesterday.
I tend to find it hard to gain weight and need to eat in excess of 5500 calories to grow. I am going to be consuming 7000 calories/day a meal every 2 hours with minimum of 35 grams of protein in each meal. A total of 8 meals / day and a protein shake right before bed. 75 grams of protein directly after a workout and total protein should round off to about 400 grams.

Liv52, milk thistle going to be used for liver and water at least 3 litres of it every day, bare in mind I will be consuming other liquids from shakes and so on. No carbonated drinks during this time. I will be training 5 days a week each workout not being more than 90 minutes and what intense workouts they are going to be.

I am currently looking into methods of increasing my appetite to be implemented after dianabol use stops. B12, does it really work to those who have used it? Unfortunately Im not going with the eq anymore and I have heard anavar reduces appetite so I am sure going to need to make up for this.

Call me mad but for the duration of this cycle my life is only going to be bodybuilding. Sleep, Eat, Train and Sleep. No parties, no social gatherings and so on. I am going to be completely dedicated to muscle gain and not let anything get in the way (each to their own). I am trying to see what results can be achieved with complete focus.

To those who have bothered reading this far, any input advice, or criticism would be appreciated.

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strengthmonster

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posted January 09, 2001 08:28 AM

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1 1/2g for a big kick start .......cool.
Have you used 1 1/2g before?


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bb4424

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posted January 09, 2001 08:31 AM

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It might make sense to start the clen after the last week of cyp and then eca and then clen again. it has worked for me although i do not use as much, eat as much and i am not as big as you...i do it after my last injection...2 weeks of each for a total of 6 weeks for anticatablic and fat burning.


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conan69

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posted January 09, 2001 08:33 AM

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Hey Iron Game

I really like that cycle
here is one thing that i will point out

i have been doing a lot of research and i feel that an increase in does is required the first week, useing cyp, by my calculations
you should increase the first 1 or 2 weeks dosage

here you check it out http://www.come.to/roidcalc

to get more level doses in the system do to the half lifes

email me if you want to talk further about this...this will also show you why i dont taper, because of the half lifes and frequency of injections AS is self tapering

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MUSTANG_18

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posted January 09, 2001 08:36 AM

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CYCLE LOOKS VERY GOOD! YOU SEEM VERY DEDICATED AND SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH YOUR GAINS. GOOD LUCK WITH THE CYCLE

M18


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 09, 2001 09:09 AM

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StrenghtMonster, not used 1500mgs before but have used 1000. I was asking about the additional sides yesterday and most of the people who have used both amounts said sides were similar accept for a little more oil on the skin which caused more acne. I may consider running accutane alongside it.

bb4424, I should have thought of that, thanks for pointing it out, will change it.

Conan, I am looking into your point, may add some additional prop alongside the cyp in wk 1 to keep test level slightly more stable. I will let you know.

Mustang, thanks for your comments


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strengthmonster

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posted January 09, 2001 09:32 AM

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The most test I've ever used was 1g but I was considering going higher myself. I got acne for the first time ever on my lower back at 1g. Never got any at 750mg so I suppose I'll just have to put up with it. My g/f is one of those girls that likes popping zits so it should keep her busy!


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scubasteve

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posted January 09, 2001 09:37 AM

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I would also invest in wider doors for your house

Nice to see that level of dedication.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 09, 2001 12:21 PM

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StrengthMonster, I would be careful there. My gf used to do the zits when I was on 500 but she wouldnt touch them when I was on 1000.

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