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Author | Topic: Is it possible to make continuous gains? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 125 |
I have been thinking lately about how the pro�s continue to make gains while being on steroids year round and I think I may have the answer. While talking to a top amateur who has been on steroids for 2 years none stop, they told me that they keep changing the steroids they are using ever couple of months. When you think about it each steroid has a different receptor site affinity, some have a high affinity (Deca, Anavar, Primobolan Proviron, DHT) while others have a low affinity (Anadrol, Dianabol). In any cycle where you use more than one steroid the steroids in that cycle will compete for receptor sites and the one with the highest affinity will win. However there is a theory that suggests some steroids do not have to bind to a receptor site to cause a muscle growth response e.g. Dianabol, Anadrol, and Winstrol. This would explain why using more than one steroid in a cycle (ideally one steroid with a high affinity and one with a low affinity) will produce more gains than using just one steroid throughout the cycle. Now the above statement is nothing new, something similar was said on the Anabolic Extreme web site. However I believe that from this information you can also work out why it is necessary to completely change your steroid combinations every 4 to 6 weeks. Ok I don�t know if any of you have tried this, but I have � I tried using a Testosterone only cycle and after 4 or 5 weeks I had noticed little or no gains so I dropped the Test and started taking Deca. Almost immediately within about 4 or 5 days I gained 7 lb�s. I couldn�t understand why I had made no gains on the Test, at first I assumed it must be fake, but now I realise I may have been jumping the gun. The cycle before my Test only cycle was pretty high in Testosterone also, so my receptors where probably still saturated with Testosterone or worse still the derivative of Testosterone DHT which has a very high receptor site affinity. When I added the Deca, which also has a high receptor affinity it possibly displaced the Test/ DHT and was able to send a new fresh message to my receptors, which caused the new growth. Think about it � when you feel your current training routine is getting you nowhere what do you do? You probably change your routine, which shocks the muscle into some new growth. I believe the same is true with steroid use. If you continually use the same steroids, cycle after cycle, then your receptors go stale. The best way to shock them into promoting new growth is by hitting them with a new, completely different steroid combination. What do you guy�s think? Has anyone else experienced this? ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 267 |
The theory is sound, dosen't leave much room for overall health though. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1129 |
That is interesting but the one thing I might add is that he pros do not continue to make gains. They bulk up in off season and cut down in contest time. There weight does go up and down, but when it peaks its always within a few pounds of there maximum weight they have been at. We are talking about drug abuse here not drug use. If this wasn't the case we would have 350lb plus pros by now and stepping on stage at 300 shredded. People begin taking steroids to break there natural limit and there is only so much more muscle they can add to there natural frame using steroids. This is my view anyway. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 125 |
Well maybe if you want to maintain health it could be possible to do an 8 or 12 week cycle splitting your steroid cycle in two. 4-6 weeks of say Anadrol and Sustanon followed by 4-6 weeks of Deca and Winstrol. Then take 3-4 weeks off and start over again. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 125 |
You are correct The_Iron_Game The Pro�s may have reached their limit, however some of the guys on this board may not have reached their limit. This information may explain how they can get there a lot quicker without the frustration of using a Cycle, getting great results and then using the same steroid combination in their following cycle and not getting as impressive results. Some of the guy�s on this board who have experienced this will no doubt assume the reason they did not make similar gains the second time round is because they have to take ever increasing doses. Quite possibly all they had to do was change the steroids they use. As for the Pros bulking up in the off season and then cutting down for competitions, if you have ever noticed, some of these guys compete a few pounds heavier at each competition. Think about it � in the off season the Pro's will use mostly heavy Androgens like Testosterone and Anadrol. Come competition time they will change there steroid combinations to more anabolic things like Primo, Winstrol, Anavar, and Parabolan - ok Parabolan is a high androgen/anabolic but it is still a change from Test and Anadrol. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 147 |
I don't mean to sound patronising but I would have thought it was really obvious to everyone that it would be commonsense to change your steroid combinations for each cycle. I didn't realise that many people didn't do this. Not only do I change my steroids I also usually increase the strength of each cycle about 50% over the prior one. I only do 2-3 cycles maximum and then I take a 4-6 months break. My first cycle is always "weak" by the standards of cycles on here but that leaves plenty of room for increasing dosages. Fresh receptors usually respond well to small dosages of steroids I find. I usually limit second and third cycles to 8 weeks. Madmitch, I think this is a very good topic you have brought up :> ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 173 |
Nice topic.Let's not forget though the incredible,insane amounts the pros use which would make most of us look like pussies. Guess when it's your livelihood and you HAVE to make money or drown,you would take anything & everything to win,or at least try to win. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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