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BadassBOB

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posted January 09, 2001 02:25 AM

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Hello my stack consist of sus, deca, riforvit B, and clomid and clen..please correct any mistaks..and tell me what to add thank you for your time.


sostenon deca rif B clomid
week 1 250mg 300mg 1cc 0
week 2 250mg 300mg 1cc 0
week 3 250mg 300mg 1cc 0
week 4 500mg 300mg 1 1/2cc 0
week 5 500mg 300mg 1 1/2cc 0
week 6 500mg 300mg 1cc 0
week 7 500mg 300mg 1cc 0
week 8 500mg 400mg 0 0
week 9 500mg 0 0 1eod
week10 500mg 0 0 1eod
week11 0 0 0 1ed

What do u think about this? Here are my questions.

1. should i use more clomid, of so how should i work it in?

2. Should i do less than 10 weeks of sos..and boost up to750mg?

3. Should i go from 1 1/2cc's of riforvit up to 2 cc's instead of tapering down to 1?..

4 how are my deca measurments?

5 my last stack was 200mg of enethate and rifB 12..(1cc a day)..for (50cc worth)..i didn't have problems with bitch tit..should i worry about it now?

6. should i use nolvadex..(i really don't want to cause i heard it makes the juice weaker)..

7. When should i had in clen after cloms are all out?..and should i do primobolen with clen or is that just to much juice..

8. IF i should use primobolan with clen than what measurements..and when use it?..i never tried it but i can get a good deal on it from a close freind..(my source..)

i'm 6ft. 3in.. 240lbs..around 12% bodyfat (alot of water from last cycle 3months ago..but it's winter time fuck it ...lol)..

what do u guy's think..thanks bro's..


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BadassBOB

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posted January 09, 2001 02:26 AM

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shit i should have sorted out the chart more sorry


it goes like this


sos...........deca......rif B.........clomid


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BigBazooka

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posted January 09, 2001 02:32 AM

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bob, you can always edit your message to make it more readable. i think it looks good, but it misses something. you should take some faster oral steroid, ie dianabol for the first 4-5 weeks, 20-25 mg daily, i think.

if you haven't had problems with gyno, then just don't use nolva. but it is a good idea to keep it handy.

i hope this was "educated" enough..

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BadassBOB

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posted January 09, 2001 02:35 AM

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yes bro. thanks alot for your response..the only thing is i got the rif B..for free..cause i did a favor for my friend...so i'm gonna use it..it's ligit too..i've tooken the same kind before so it's cool......should i go up in cc's?..per day u think?


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BigBazooka

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posted January 09, 2001 02:39 AM

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not really familliar with ref b, but cc's look good. one way to take sustanon, is to taper a little. so if you took that 500mg's for the first half and 250 mg's untill the end of cycle. alltough the doses aren't too high you will crash a little less.

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BadassBOB

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posted January 09, 2001 02:58 AM

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k thanks


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DRRman

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posted January 09, 2001 03:15 AM

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bro, pick one dosage of test and keep it there throughout the cycle, so if you start with 500, keep it there till the end. Do the same with deca, do 300-400 each week till the end, no need to taper up or down. As far as the clomid, take one EOD till the last week. keep taking one EOD for the next week, Then take 2per day for two weeks after that. I like 5000iu's of HCG broken up in even intervals during the middle week, but thats just me!


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MeanOne

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posted January 09, 2001 03:20 AM

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BadAss, I don't like your cycle. for the following reasons:

Test to Deca ratio should always be 2:1.

Hitting the receptors when they are fresh will provide better gains then your current, weird lop-sided taper pyramid thing you have going on.

I would use more clomid, starting at week 2, through week 14, if you stick with your cycle.

10 weeks is a little long in my opinion. Most people can only grow for 6-8 weeks.

Yes, up the Test/Dbol dosage. Cut your cycle down to 8 weeks.

Here is what I feel might be best:

Test Deca Dbol Clom.
750mgs 300mgs 35mgs ---
750mgs 300mgs 35mgs ---
750mgs 300mgs 35mgs 1ed
750mgs 300mgs 35mgs 1ed
750mgs 300mgs 25mgs 1ed
750mgs 300mgs 25mgs 1ed
750mgs 300mgs 35mgs 1ed
500mgs ------ ----- 1ed
500mgs ------ ----- 1ed
------ ------ ----- 1ed
------ ------ ----- 1ed
------ ------ ----- 1ed


Sustanon takes about 2-3 weeks to build up in the system, as the deconate ester lasts for about 20-27 days, varying amongst people. (This is the common interpetation. I beleive the half life is actually much less.) For this reason, you will be builing up the first 6 weeks, then by week 6, you will have enough Deconate in your system to start to drop off dosages.

Dbol is commonly used to kick start cycles. For this reason, you want your beginning dosages high, then tapering off as the Test comes on.

Deca is my worst enemy. I hate the stuff. But some people really like it. I do NOT suggest exceeding 300mgs/wk, and the only reason I said 300 instead of 250 was to make it a round number of cc's you'd be using if using 200-300mgs products. If you don't already have Deca, I would suggesting substituting it with 400mgs of primobolan depot a week, or 300mgs of Eq.

Always have Nolvadex on hand, just in case. If you begin to experience gyno side effects (which hopefully will be coming from the test, not deca), begin with 20mgs/day for 7 days, then down to 10mgs/day for the remander of the cycle.

If you have not heard much about short cycling, maybe you might consider looking into it. I'm a big fan of them. Others are not.

Other things you might consider including your your post cycle recovery kit might be:

Velvet Bean
DHEA
5-HTP
Melatonin
HCG

If you need further assistance, post questions or feel free to email me at the address found below.

Lastly, I'm about sick of this snow shit, how about you? LoL, Ohio sucks.

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BadassBOB

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posted January 09, 2001 03:25 AM

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thanks for the reply meanone...i'll take it into though


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FatElvis

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posted January 09, 2001 03:53 AM

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Do absolutely exactly what Mean One said. There is no reason to ease into sus. It is a waste.

There is also no reason to take clomid thru the cycle. I know some thinks it does good and there is lots of debate, but the doctors I know who specialize in steroid therapy all say it does nothing more than keep you semen level the same. No reason to waste the clomid. Wait till a few weeks after your last test shot and then blast the clomid.

By all means, do NOT ease into the sus.....slam it in the beginning. Also, fast acting Dbol is a great way to get the cycle started.

Mean one is right.


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MeanOne

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posted January 09, 2001 04:01 AM

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There is no debate to be had on the clomid issue. People's opinions differ. The two reasons I say to have it in is to keep the pituitary gland stimulated slightly, and clomids small anti-estrogen effects might help keeep a little water off. I just think the stuff is good to have on or off cycle, but hey, that's why they are called "Opinions," so people can differ. -MO


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