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  is nolva necessary w/ only 250 sus/week???

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nhbking

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posted January 08, 2001 05:15 PM

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just wondering if nolva is even necessary w/ only 250mg sus a week? thanks


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 08, 2001 05:20 PM

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Well, it depends on whether or not your trying to combat gyno and/or water retention. You will know when you are getting gyno. The number 1 sign for me was itchy nipps, and they got a little sore. If this happens, i would start with 40mg/day, until this pain/itching surpasses. Then maintain 20mg per day, then 20mg eod. When i stopped taking it, after only 3 days, i didnt have anymore problems.

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Tizok

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posted January 08, 2001 05:28 PM

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You should not need nolvadex with that small amount of test. I've taken everything under the sun and have never had a problem with bitch-tits...I've only take nolvadex when using HCG.

Don't waste the nolvadex unless you need it...like if your tits begin to get sore and more sensitive.


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Tomo

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posted January 08, 2001 05:58 PM

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highly doubtful you will need it- just watch for symptoms-tomo


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GetHuge

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posted January 08, 2001 06:06 PM

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Probably not.


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sbaset

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posted January 08, 2001 06:32 PM

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I doubt it, but every one has different sensitivety to estrogen. So it would be prudent to have nolva on hand before you start your cycle.


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Cornellius

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posted January 08, 2001 06:46 PM

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you could, but probably not.

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benzo27

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posted January 08, 2001 08:13 PM

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Yes it is necessary, to have on hand at the least. Do not start a cycle no matter what unless you have at least 30 tabs on hand. If you have to ask this question then I am assuming that you haven't cycled before. You do not know how you will react to the sust, and nolva is not that hard to get so have it just in case. Better safe then sorry. Hope this helps..goodluck


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Jback

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posted January 08, 2001 11:42 PM

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probably not-why only 250mg sos-I would say 500mg/week is minimum for effective gains-don't use nolva-use proviron if possible.

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ghans

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posted January 08, 2001 11:55 PM

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Unless you are fimiliar with how the extra test affects you, Nolva should be on hand before you begin your cycle. Some people are very prone to getting gyno. Better safe than sorry. If you notice signs of gyno, you can combat it.

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lizard

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posted January 08, 2001 11:59 PM

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it never hurts to have it just in case the gyno comes to haunt you.

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FatElvis

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posted January 09, 2001 12:07 AM

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Actually, the Sus isn't even necessary...lol. Levels that low give about the same gains as a good diet, hard training, high protein and lots of rest.


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KODIAK99

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posted January 09, 2001 12:25 AM

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Fat Elvis isn't too far off. . .I would say no to the nalvo, especially because at 250mgs/sus with 20mgs nalvo your not going to gain anything, maybe some strength but no meaningful size. . .certianly not much more than if you stayed clean. . .I would go with anavar or a similar compound if I were you.

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DDT2356

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posted January 09, 2001 01:14 AM

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Come on u guys.. u know that if he is a first time user he will definitely have more gains from just 250mg a week than using nothing at all. For advanced users it's another story. All the guys who say you should have novaldex are right, you don't wanna be stuck with slowing growing boobs and no way to stop it. Everyone's sensitivity to estrogen is different.


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FatElvis

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posted January 09, 2001 01:29 AM

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actually, I don't think that he will grow all that much by using just 250 of sus every week. the two short esters will be lost the first month cause they will be working alone...

I'd just take enanthate or cyp if I were doing a low dose test...at least all of it goes active at once.

But...the real point is why waste virgin receptors on such a weak cycle. Do about 500 a week of sus and get max gains out of it.


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