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DRMARK

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:MONTREAL,CANADA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted January 08, 2001 01:21 PM

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Guys,
my Dr. has decided to put me on permanent Test therapy @400mg/month.This is because all my past cycles have permanently shut down my natural test production.All the HCG and clomid and tribulus in the world aint gonna bring it back.I got no choice but to take this stuff if I want a normal sex life and to feel strong and keep bodyfat low while maintaining my past gains.Thing is Im worried about long term side effects and if this stuff is gonna saturate my receptors and as a result ruin any future cycles.Any ideas bros???
By the way the Dr. says its completely safe at these doses even if I take it for the rest of my life...


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The Ghost

Elite Bodybuilder

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From:Earth
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posted January 08, 2001 01:39 PM

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The doctor is probably correct. The testes produce anywhere from 4mg to 10mg per day naturally, but around age 27ish, it starts to decline towards the lower end of that range. At 400mg per month, you are averaging around 13mg per day, even though it doesn't release from the injection site into the bloodstream in that exact manner. I can't imagine 400mg per month adversely affecting your long term health.

At that dosage, you should be able to maintain larger amounts of muscle mass than you would naturally be able to do.

-TG


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scubasteve

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From:Ft. Lauderdale
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posted January 08, 2001 01:42 PM

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Wow, quite the side effect.

Can I ask how "big" your cycles were and why you think they caused you the permanent condition?


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Beezers

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posted January 08, 2001 01:55 PM

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I'm a therapier(don't think that's a word) too. I use Androgel daily though not cyp. Long term effects will be no worse than that of you body's own natural T production. The test will mimic natural levels so it won't be any worse than what your body would do for you naturaly. I'm on for the rest of my days on this planet. I'm naturaly hypogonadic...not from the gear, but I never have to worry about becoming hypogonadic from AS because I already am. The only issue my doc is concerned with is fertility. Nothing HCG can't handlr though.

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DRMARK

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posted January 08, 2001 02:01 PM

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SCUBASTEVE,
Back in 1996 I did 2 cycles of Enanthate and Deca.I averaged around 600mg/wk. of the Test.Then in 1997 I did Suspension stacked with Sustanon and Winny.Doses were no greater than average.In 1998 my problems started but now Im feeling very strong and very horny so Im thankful to have an understanding Dr.
Do your regular blood tests and use your Clomid and hcg and just be careful...
By the way does anyone know how my receptors should react on my next cycle since Im on a steady low dose of Test?


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scubasteve

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posted January 08, 2001 02:17 PM

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Thanks DRMARK.

Wish you the best.


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giantset

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From:Bumfuckt Egypt
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posted January 08, 2001 03:41 PM

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The receptor downgrade theory is a pack of lies. Receptor upgrade has makes more sense than receptors downgrading. I am on 100mg of test cyp a week for life as well and I have not had any problems with my cycles. I have been on 400-500mg of test with 400mg of deca for 3-4 months and just switched to 400mg cyp with 400mg eq. I started out bulking up and then switched to cutting while using the same dosages and drugs. My body is still reacting well to the drugs and I am maintaing strength while dieting. You shouldn't experience any problems as far as your receptors and drug performance are concerned. However your balls will shrink up since you will never be coming off. It sounds like you already have this problem (low LH and FSH) so you really have nothing to worry about.

giantset

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