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DRRman

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posted January 08, 2001 09:56 AM

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i've used deca three different times now, and i swear that i just don't get much out of it? Is it any way that deca just doesn't work for me or is it just in my head. The last time i used it i just added it to make the sus shots easier to handle? Anyone else not feel anything from deca?


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Green

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posted January 08, 2001 10:45 AM

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What did your dosages look like? Deca is a great drug. If you can't grow off deca there has to be something wrong in a different part of the equation. How's your eating/training/rest? Later, Green

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strengthmonster

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posted January 08, 2001 10:46 AM

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Are you sure it's legit?


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The Shadow

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posted January 08, 2001 10:50 AM

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I don't agree with Green. Not everyone gets good results from the same dosages of the smae drugs. I find that EQ works much better for me than Deca (and I have tried various brands)


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ulter

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posted January 08, 2001 10:50 AM

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Even those who hate Deca acknowledge that it works. If they're honest. How much are you taking?

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The Shadow

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posted January 08, 2001 10:55 AM

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I was doing 500 mg/ week along with dbol


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ulter

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posted January 08, 2001 11:36 AM

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I don't doubt you but I have never seen anyone use dbol and deca at 500mg/wk and not see good results. Like you say your body by some genetic quirk may not respond to deca. Strange.

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Green

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posted January 08, 2001 11:39 AM

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Shadow I'm just thinking that if he's taking 500mg of deca I can't see how he wouldn't grow. What kind of deca is it? I can see him not growing as well with Deca compared to other drugs but at 500/week he should see something. LAter, Green

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The Shadow

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posted January 08, 2001 11:40 AM

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I got fair results, mainly water. I repeated the cycle but substituted EQ for the Deca, and tried to keep other variables as constant as possible. I gained 13 more pounds on the EQ cycle over 10 weeks...


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Green

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posted January 08, 2001 11:49 AM

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DRRman have you tried EQ yet?

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 08, 2001 01:07 PM

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I for one, believe that everybodys bodys are different, therefore, each steroid that is introduced into ones body, reacts differently then another one.
I took EQ on my last cycle, and felt the same way you do on your deca. I started at 600mg, and finished the 10 weeks of it at 400mg.
So, now, i started taking deca, in place of eq for my pre-contest cycle. I hope that this is a better drug for my body then EQ was.

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2Thick

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posted January 08, 2001 01:11 PM

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You were probably slacking on your diet.

In order to see the magic of Deca you need 2-3g of protein per day for at least the whole duration of the cycle (and probably 2 weks before and 3 weeks after).

For a 200lb person that is 400-600g per day.

That is why you didn't get much from Deca (although how do you know that when you were stacking)?

How do you know which steroid is working in a stack?


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Hankrr

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posted January 08, 2001 01:38 PM

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I hate Deca. I grow on it but it give's me the worse acne and hair loss out of anything else I've tried. I don't understand it because everyone says it has no side effects but it surly does for me.


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300Kleen the newbie!

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posted January 08, 2001 01:46 PM

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It all depends on the person.

Some people react well to certain AS's and
others don't. It's that simple.

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greenhouse

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posted January 08, 2001 01:49 PM

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Ya, I got something form Deca.

A small case of gyno.


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Ffactor

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posted January 08, 2001 01:55 PM

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Might be something genetic. I can gain 10-15 quality pounds off a deca cycle at 400 mg per week with my routine diet which does not include 300-400 mg of protein. However, I get terrible results from d-bol. I gain some water weight and then lose it all post cycle.


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DRRman

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posted January 08, 2001 04:22 PM

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im not saying the drug is useless in any way, i just don't think my body reacts that well with it and was wondering if anybody else felt the same way. I used denkall brand each time except one where i used the denkall and norma hellas. 2Thick you may be right, i can't really say because it was stacked. I have tried equipoise once during a cutting cycle and my body did respond much better to it, its in my cycle right now. Who knows, my diet was up to par each time i was on. I took 400mg's per week each time also. I think i just love test and take so much i don't feel like i get much from the deca.


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Bchemist

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posted January 08, 2001 04:59 PM

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Feeling the need to consume 400-600g of protein per day is utterly rediculous. No studies I have ever read even come close to supporting this notion. The biggest factor in developing a positive nitrogen balance is an excess of calories. Protein is secondary...but supplement companies could never admit to that.


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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 08, 2001 05:08 PM

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Oh, one thing my doctor was talking about the other day.....kidney stones and bodybuilding? They dont mix at all. If you have them very often, its possible you can get a disease, where your body cannot take large amounts of protein, and if you do take it in, then you have very bad kidney problems, and stones. I had a stone a few months ago, but this is just another reason to drink WATER WATER, and more WATER! How would that suck, if your doc said you couldnt eat but 100grams of protein a day!

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2Thick

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posted January 08, 2001 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bchemist:
Feeling the need to consume 400-600g of protein per day is utterly rediculous. No studies I have ever read even come close to supporting this notion. The biggest factor in developing a positive nitrogen balance is an excess of calories. Protein is secondary...but supplement companies could never admit to that.

Not year round...only during the cycle and that is for 200+ users. You can go ahead and consume as much (or little) as you like but I have seen a positive relationship (in real life use) between high protein consumption during a cycle and gains in LBM. I say go with what works.

Increased calories will only result in increased fat storage after a certain limit. Protein in my opinion is much more important than just caloric intake.

As a side note, I think it is utterly ridiculous to use more than 750mg of testosterone...ever



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