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  Can someone tell me exact amount of test in sust.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 07, 2001 06:40 PM

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Ok well I have just discovered something that is a little disturbing to say the least. In 250mgs of testoviron depot there is 180mgs of testosterone. Could someone let me know how much is in 250mgs (1 amp) of sustanon 250. Im assuming omna would be exactly the same as the sust.

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dave1975

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posted January 07, 2001 06:46 PM

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Testosterone propionate 30 mg
Testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone decanoate 100 mg


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted January 07, 2001 06:50 PM

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There will always be less testosterone than what is on the label, since the quoted dosage includes the weight of the ester. For sust, you would have to subtract the weight of all the esters given in the breakdown above to arrive at the approximate amount of testosterone, underdosing/overdosing notwithstanding.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 07, 2001 06:51 PM

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Anabolicum Mister:
Bro, thanks but do you know how much the ester takes away from the 4 blends?

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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 07, 2001 07:10 PM

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Bump for the Mods & Vets


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lawnsaver

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posted January 07, 2001 07:43 PM

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the only ester I know is enanthate which you get 72mg of raw test per 100mg. Enanthate is a long ester so take it from there to estimate


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FatElvis

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posted January 07, 2001 07:51 PM

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personally, I don't see why your sudden realization is so disturbing. When all of us talk about taking 200mg of test, we are talking about the 144 mgs of actual test plus the ethers. It isn't like the rest of us have been discussing levels much higher than the levels that you are getting. When I tell someone I recommend 200mgs of test, I don't expect them to use 260mgs so they make sure they get 200 mgs of ACTUAL test.

Basically, we are all on the same scale so its no biggie.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 08, 2001 04:12 AM

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Thank you kindly for your insight Fat Elvis but if you dont know the answer dont post.


PS I knew in 250mgsof test there were the esters to take into account but I did not realise the actual amount.

Come on, someone must know the amount of ester in 100mgs of each? or total amount in sust.

Testosterone propionate
Testosterone phenylpropionate
Testosterone isocaproate
Testosterone decanoate
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panerai

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posted January 08, 2001 04:37 AM

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I remember MeanOne in one of his first discussion(the one about what's better Sust or Enanthate(I'm not sure about Enanthate,here)gave up exact number,so you may want to look for that thread,or wait till MeanOne wakes up and get himself to computer.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 08, 2001 10:59 AM

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MeanOne, GymRats, Chemists anyone. I know I keep bumping this but I need to find this out.

Thanks all


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FatElvis

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posted January 08, 2001 11:39 AM

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Iron Game,

Glad you appreciate insight, but why did you say you were "disturbed" by finding that sus250 was weighted with esters included? I honestly don't really know why you feel its so important to know the exact amount of esters in sus. Every test ever discussed has esters and actual test involved. Its not like sus is the only test that this "disturbing news" applies to.

Sorry you didn't like the insight, but I don't see why you should be so disturbed.

Good luck finding your info.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 08, 2001 11:46 AM

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FatElvis, the reason I am disturbed is the amount of ester needed for the test.

Injecting 250mgs of testosterone enanthate and to think you are only really getting 180mgs of test. This is below natural levels for a teenager. Once again on a 500mgs/wk you are only getting 360mgs and for 1000mgs only 720mgs. That is why I found it disturbing. I never really thought about how much was actual test in the amps of enanthate. Now I wish to look into how much is in sust due to the different blends of test and if it was more or less than enanthate. The higher of the 2 I will use in my next cycle. Also wishing to find out for cypionate.

SO if anyone out there can help, please do so. Surely some one on the board knows this.

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Damian Borleone

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posted January 08, 2001 12:10 PM

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Can't really help you with Sust but can tell you the cypionate ester is heavier than the enanthate ester so it will contain less test.


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