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 Ttokkyo lab results from EQ and SUST
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Moderator 
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This is a copy and paste from a different board from [email protected] TTOKKYO TESTONON-250 5ML (SUSTENON) ------------------     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Good post Conan. So this shit is underdosed... Well its just another reason not to use it. | ||
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Moderator
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I wouldnt use the Sust but the EQ is still a higher dose than anything else on the market ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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That is very interesting. Ttokkyo is suppossed to be a very reputable company. Perhaps someone will investigate this as there labels are very misleading. Each ml of the oily solution should contain: Testosterone propionate 30 mg The eq content has also disturbed me it should be 200mgs/ml and that is what should be expected. I am sure when you pay for 200mgs thats how much you want. Imagine someone using 600mgs/wk They would only be getting a little more than 400. I will not be purchasing any Ttokkyo products unless they can now back up their claims. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
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CONAN, DO YOU THINK THIS COULD BE AN ISOLATED PROBLEM OR DO YOU THINK THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE IS GETTING SLOPPY? I'M ON THEIR DECA NOW AND LOVE IT, AND WAS THINKING OF STOCKING UP ON SEVERAL OF THEIR PRODUCTS.WHAT DO YOU THINK GUY?? THANKS | ||
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Moderator
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I am not sure, this could be an isolated account but i do know that people who use there products love them so i am still going ahead with the eq ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
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Were can you have these test done? Bri | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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a very good post but are these test reliable. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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i think i will still pick some of this stuff up | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Good post. But this is def. not what I wanted to hear. As far as the EQ goes, I think I will stick with Ultragan until the Ttokkyo has a more proven track record. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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I dont knwo if the tests are realiable both were tested twice. i suggest some more bros have some tested Any Chemists in the house?????? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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What about the deca? | ||
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Moderator
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"I will post the results for the 300mg deca and anavar next week" thats what he said at anabolex so i will keep my eyes posted but i would really like to see this get tested again to verify these numbers ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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Where are the lab scans?? Who did the testing?? ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Good, but disappointing info...does this guy say what method he uses to test these products (NMR, chromatography, etc?) It makes a big difference with the accuracy. I know the first times I isolated compounds in solution, I got a WIDE range of values because I wasn't callibrating the equipment correctly. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Interesting!! The eq is still the better buy ml for ml!!! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Keep this one at the top. I must say I am a but disapointed. The EQ is still the the highest concentration out there but that is still substantialy underdosed. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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You guys shouldn't be taking this for gospel, anyone can post this, without lab scans its just opinion. We have SEEN lab scan for the deca300 and the dbols that are very well dosed. Until we see more scans, you shouldn't take this as information. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Moderator
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Slopain is exactly right! This is only info that i saw on another board, i too would like to see more scans if you have any questions i put the guys email in the post ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
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The EQ is still better than any other, like Ultragan, but then let's hope it does not get's sold at twice the price of Ultragan..... This is one of the reason's i prefer human made roids. At least they are up to the specs. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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People, you're acting like a bunch of sheep. A person who has a total of 2 posts on any board comes out of nowhere claiming he has had two of the ttokkyo products tested (and of course they came up underdosed), and you guys are taking his word as gospel??? Before I believe any test I want to see the actual lab assay and know the **specifs** of how these tests were performed. | ||
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Freak
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the post was from Conan69 and he has 1531 posts, his own website...Agreed copy/paste, but no fire without smoke.... ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Without a lab, it is still possible to separate out the solid steroid from the oil. A vacuum distillation apparatus helps but it can be done without. Of course, all one can hope to do is mass the solid, not determine what exactly the solid is. Andy | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I'm talking about this guy "drewz" from anabolex who nobody has heard of until now. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Can someone go more into detail about that bacteria count? Is that a good amount 18 parts per thousand? or is it high? I'm just curious sincei 'm not a chemist and don't understand the readings too well. | ||
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Guru
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Drewz=Will E.?  | ||
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Moderator
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LET ME REPEAT THIS ONE MORE TIME I COPY AND PASTED FROM ANOTHER POST ON ANOTHER BOARD!!!! I CAN NOT VERIFY THESE RESULTS I WAS MEARLY POSTING WHAT I SAW | ||
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Freak
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So Huck, and Will E is ???? You lost me (not for the first time). ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Guru
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Will Eckard,the guy who's in competition with Ttokkyo,and is always slamming their products.... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Huck- you read my mind. Look at "drewz" only other post on Anabolex- he talks about Mexico and refers to the pharmacies there as "clinics". In 4+ years of reading these message boards, the only person I know who consistantly uses that term is Mike Barr (die_hard, captain dbol, the "doc", etc).
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Guru
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Damian-You should just go over there and post a polite rebuttal,and if he starts in with calling you a C*NT(as usual)then we know who it is...He just can't resist,lol... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Huck- LOL! All I know is it took an act of god to convince people that ttokkyo puts out a properly dosed product. I just find it extremely ironic that sooooo many people are willing to put faith in test results from someone they've never even heard of before. If this Drewz guy is telling the truth he should have no problem defending those results. But what I suspect will happen is he'll test all of ttokkyo's products, they'll all come out underdosed, his mission will be accomplished so he'll end up disappearing from the boards as quickly as he appeared. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Definately taking this with a grain of salt. | ||
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Guru
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Agreed...The only legitimate scans provided here(by GymratSD)have shown very good quality.Until we see actual scans disproving this,it's all heresay,and nothing more... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Yeah,I don't believe that bullshit,unless I see documented proof.Why would they choose to overdose some products,and underdose others?It doesn't make sense ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Exactly, how could quality control be crap for 2 products and excellent for the rest of their product line? ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Actually, I had them test, and they both came out to be 500mg per ml! All denkall products test a 2mg....per liter! Seriously, who is this anonymous, Drewz guy? BE MORE CYNICAL! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Lets keep our eyes peeled, guys. This can affect alot of things. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Need to keep this one alive until we get some scans......... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Keep this up top until we have further results. I would like to see the results on the 300mg Deca, as i just injected 1cc in each bicep, and i would hope that its not underdosed like its brothers, Sust, and EQ. Still, im with most, i would stick with Ultragan, until we find out the EXACT results, not speculations. But its really not too pricey......$80 bucks for a bottle? Not too bad at all.  ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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He posted this same report here on elite a few days ago. Same name | ||
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Guru
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Bro's, The bottom line is these are foreign companies making almost all the AS we use. . .some from pretty depressed 3rd world places. . .the quality control, aseptic technique used in labs, and specifications demanded by the government are certainly more lax than those imposed by our FDA and ultra litigous society. . .I would be surprised if you really believed products from places such as Packistan, India, Mexico, Brasil are actually dosed correctly, especially when cotton or sesame seed oil costs nothing and the test esters are of some nominal value. . .the goal is quantity for the black market around the world not quality. . .just my 2 cents, and I believe these results are not only valid but probably speak volumes about all our gear. . .the bottom line is very little gear is still made in the US and that which is although can be trusted is rarely found. Peace ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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NOBODY BUY TTOKKYO GEAR!!! more for me! heheh ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
bump.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
LOL! I can't believe so many people jumped on the wagon without seeing the results, or even knowing who supposedly tested it. This place cracks me up. I'm with Slopain, more Ttokkyo gear for me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Just wish more AS are manufactured in the US. Then again, there can be no guarantee of potency meeting label claim, but at least, there would have been more quality control. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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if you guys are gonna bitch about things that arent true you can always buy brovel products. I heard those are very well dosed, especially the ethanate. bahahahaaha | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Conan - For what it is worth, I tested some "RE-bottled" Sus from the man. It had Enanthate in it as well... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Conan, thanks for the info dude. That's what moderating this board is all about. I have personally tried Ttokkyo products and had no problem with them. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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bump...for scans of the reports? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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But what about that bacteria count? Is that normal?? |
All times are ET (US) | |
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posted January 07, 2001 08:08 AM
