The pie graph was divided in sections: sucicide, depression, anxiety and no effect.

The graph of the people who have NEVER been on anything was about 90%- "no effect", and "suicide", "depression", "anxiety" was the other 10%. That looked okay to me....

But what was shocking was graph #2 of bodybuilders who HAVE been on steroids. "Deppression" 50%, "anxiety", 15%, "no effect" 15% "suicide" 3-5% and then there was a section with "other effects" 15% (i'd think these would be minor things)

(All of these #'s are aproximations, as they didnt have the exact % number listed.)

Do you think these are correct #'s??? And is it possible, kinda scary huh!

aky

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Men and women who feel pressured to conform to
ideal body images frequently portrayed in the
American media may be at risk for depression and
suicide.
Overweight women and underweight men were
more likely to be depressed and suicide-prone than
people of average weight and build, according to a
study published in the Feb. 1 American Journal of
Public Health. Researchers from the Obesity
Research Center at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, in
New York City, based these findings on a 1992 survey
involving face-to-face interviews with more than
40,000 American adults.
Their analysis shows obese women were 26
percent more likely to contemplate suicide and 55
percent more likely to have attempted suicide in the
previous year than women of average weight.
Surprisingly, underweight men were 80 percent more
likely to consider suicide and 77 percent more likely to
have tried it, compared with average-weight men.
The other surprising finding was that under- or
oversized people of all races felt inadequate,
researchers report. Previous studies suggested
African-American women were more comfortable
with extra pounds than white women.
Lead researcher Dr. Myles Faith, a clinical
psychologist who specializes in obesity research, says
too often obesity is perceived only as a medical
problem. The psychological problems associated with
weight are often overlooked. "It's not often the medical
things that are getting in the way of their lives and
bothering them the most," Dr. Faith tells OnHealth.
Social rejection appears to affect overweight women
and underweight men the most, he says. "The reality in
our culture is that it's very stigmatizing for many
women to be overweight and obese," Dr. Faith adds.
"For men, the ideal is muscular and pumped up."
Underweight men may feel weak or scrawny when
compared with ideal male body types, he says.
Researchers also say they're not sure if depression
comes first or whether weight problems lead to
depression.
Obesity increases a person's risk of developing
several serious chronic illnesses, including heart
disease and diabetes. Dr. Faith suggests physicians
also should consider the emotional well-being of
patients who struggle with their weight.
--By WebMD National News Center

testosterone is supposedly the chemical that is releases in winners. It helps them stay on top. It is meant to make muscles stronger, bones harder, sperm count & sex drive higher, and most importantly for this topic, and individual more sensitive to what he perceives as injustice. this makes him more likely to fight & fuck.

Sure, there's a "self-selection" factor in research of the kind aky has adduced. Guys who use gear are probably more dissatisfied with their physiques to begin with - otherwise, why embark on such a difficult journey - and that pre-existing mental trait is surely one of the sources of the later suicidality. But to pretend that gear does not itself possess powerful mood-altering properties is simply foolish, and completely out of touch with a wealth of both formal scientific and anecdotal evidence.

If you don't have ample respect for this kind of shit - the downside (psychological as well as physiological side-effects) as well as the upside - then don't board the train, brothers.

Bjaarki

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"'Til the weard of the world, stands, unforgotten,
high under Heaven, the hero's name." - Hrolf Krakki's Saga (Iceland)

You must be mentally and physically stable enough to use them or there will be problems

Regarding steroids. The depression, loss of libido and energy, etc. is related mostly to the low testosterone levels that follow a cycle. Furthermore, no one wants to lose muscle, strength and get fatter, but its a function of coming off a cycle. Deal with it or don't start a cycle in the first place. Most importantly, taper off the AAS and use hCG then clomid to get your normal T back up. Hypogonadal guys display the same symptoms that users do when they come off a cycle.

I think there are too many people that get into steroids with psych problems to begin with thinking that AAS will solve their insecurities and low-self esteem. It is that group that makes it look like steroids are the problem when it reality, it is the intrinsic personality of some users that are drawn to these drugs with false hopes and expectations.

If you know what you're getting into going in and know what to expect coming off, then you are far less likely to have a problem coming off. Knowledge is your most important ally when using steroids.

I'd also like to know where that data came from. Is there a literature citation in that book or is this speculation and/or propaganda.