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MeanOne

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posted January 06, 2001 05:23 PM

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Do you guys hit the same bodypart every day, or do you let it go for a few days? Just curious what your experiences were. The common theory was to allow 2-3 days before hitting the same bodypart for an injection, but as I have come to question all of the old theories, this obviously came into question. Why would the oils sit in a muscle for longer than 6-8 hours? The exception might be a smaller muscle group (bi's, delts, tri's) but for the glutes...what do you think? This is for my personal knowledge as I'm looking at about 50+ injections in 13 days time, and I have had very little luck with performing quad injections without
A) Intense Pain (to the piont I snapped a needle once because my quad couldn't relax)
or
B) Seeing blood when aspirating.

Thanks for your time guys..

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Cornellius

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posted January 06, 2001 05:39 PM

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I believe that the 2-3 days theory isn�t because the oil is still on the injection site, is because when you inject you make little scars in the muscle that need time to heal. If you are scaring the same muscle every day, the scar will turn bigger creating an abscess.
This is just my thought...

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted January 06, 2001 08:02 PM

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I think that the oils stay around the same location for a long period of time, depending on the ester. I believe that the reason for this is the ester side chain, which makes the molecule's very hydrophobic/lipophillic.


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BIGGYSMALLZ

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posted January 06, 2001 08:09 PM

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50+ injections within a 13 day period!!!I THINK THAT'S NUTS!!!

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MeanOne

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posted January 06, 2001 10:14 PM

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Biggy, insulin(26 injects), hGH(10 injects), Suspension(13 injects), Eq(4 injects), finaject(7 injects), and over 4 grams of enanthate (7 injects min) in that 13 day period add up to a lot of injections, even if those drugs were combined in the same injections. Oh, how can I forget Anadrol and Nolavdex, lol. Okay, I guess I will continue the search for good places to inject. (I can understand the scar idea, but would it only be the size of the needle...it would take me pretty good aim to exactly hit the exact same spot again). Thanks guys


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punisher

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posted January 06, 2001 10:23 PM

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what size darts you using?


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MeanOne

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posted January 06, 2001 10:27 PM

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27 on the insulin, 23 or 22 gauge on everything else, 1.25inch, 3 CC syringe.


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panerai

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posted January 06, 2001 10:47 PM

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Exactly,it takes forever to build scar tissue.When I was young stud,I was exposed to drug addicts,nothing like you guys,realy bad drug addicts.Anyway,they shoot in vein in the same spot until scar is so big they can't shoot,then they start next spot,next to it,and go on.It takes about 20-30 shots in same spot to developpe noticable scar tissue,and it's not even mucscle it's vein!
I use only quads,one per day,so I hit each eod.That's the end of 5th week of my cycle and every injection is like first one,no difference.
Speaking of oil,I can't remember were I read that study,if it's very important I'll try to find it,but they were taking blood samples from diff parts of body after test injection and in a matter of hours test was present everywere,which is proof that oil doeasn't make a pocket.


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Thunder

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posted January 06, 2001 10:55 PM

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10cc and 6 cc darts help


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MeanOne

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posted January 06, 2001 11:02 PM

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I don't think anyone should be shooting over 3cc in one injection. That is bad, oil abssess aren't my cup o' tea.


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panerai

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posted January 06, 2001 11:41 PM

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You can get oil absess only if you introduce bacteria with injection.It's a common thing among Europian bodybuilders to shoot 5cc and some even 10cc.
I,personally wouldn't do it,at least for now,3cc is the most I've done.


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jersey boy

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posted January 06, 2001 11:46 PM

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Scar tissue turning into absesses- don't make me laugh, it's two completely different animals.

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ripped103

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posted January 07, 2001 09:37 AM

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you need to broaden your horizen.start using site injections.bis, tris, glutes, quads, pecs, traps.if your willing to take that many drogs at one time then you should learn how to inject into evry bodypart.also the hgh should be taken subQ along with the insulin so that would leave more muscles open to play with


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megamassnitro

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posted January 07, 2001 12:26 PM

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When the oil is ejected from the end of the needle is creates little muscle separations or tears.. very small. If you continue to hit the same spot every day these small tears will not heal. With large volume injections you can create an "oil pocket" that can be very painful and retain your juice.


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Jeff_rys

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posted January 07, 2001 12:37 PM

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i wouldn't worry about the scar tissue. You can inject the same bodypart twice a week (the same place to stick the needle in), BUT you can inject your butt easy in 4 different places (and i mean in every cheek). So you already have 16 shots/week. Leave an inch between spots (give or take).
That's what i would do. And then there are the delts, bi's, tri's...
My worries would be the needle size. Oil based with a 25-27 depending on the roid and the for the rest insulin needles. (Unless roids like Winny V).

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Slopain

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posted January 07, 2001 12:41 PM

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I personally just go on fealing, I cannot hit the quads more than once every 5 days or so, if I do - it will nbe sore for a few days. My glutes can take 2 per week. Something happened this last cycle, I used to be able to hit the same body part often now, I need to rotate better.

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E2

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posted January 07, 2001 02:55 PM

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quote:
Biggy, insulin(26 injects), hGH(10 injects), Suspension(13 injects), Eq(4 injects), finaject(7 injects), and over 4 grams of enanthate (7 injects min) in that 13 day period add up to a lot of injections, even if those drugs were combined in the same injections.

The slin and gh you dont' really have to worry about as they're subc injections, you don't even feel those at all. I shoot 3-4cc's in the delts, 5-8cc's in the glutes and 3cc's in the quads. SO i'm sure you can cut down on your injection volume by upping your per shot volume. Of course i understand that your fina is shot eod and you suspension is shot ed, etc etc... so those you can't do much about.


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