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 Question for you short cycle advocates...
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Cool Novice 
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most of you are saying 2 weeks on, and 4 off, why would you take double the time your off, when on a typical 10 week cycle, you only take 10 weeks off, it would seem 2 weeks would be plenty, I'm thinking of the same idea with a 3 on and 3 off approach, juts curious to the reasoning behind this, thanks bros. Gettinbig2     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1118 |
Before you go ahead with it, people will be able to help out better if you explain what you are going to be using for those 3 wks on. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 333 |
You definitely deserve a FLAME for this one bro. 3 week short cycle is the dumbbest thing I've heard all day. The whole point of the 2 on 4 off is so you don't shut down natural test levels. If you run a short cycle for 3 weeks you might as well just do a 8-10 week regular cycle. With a 2 on 4 off approach, there's NO crash, more permanant gains. Now to do a short cycle properly: Stop your injectables after day 10, and stop your orals after day 13, just to be on the safe side. Do clomid everyday for 1 week, after the 14 days are up. Drugs to use: Test Prop., Suspension, Tren, Masteron, Dbol, Clomid. I wouldn't mess with anything else but those on a short cycle. Pick one or two of them and your in business. Hope this helps everyone not just this guy.... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
I"m not sure what one more week would make such a diffence, I"ve seen short cycles of 3 weeks talked about. I still dont understand the time off for a 2 week cycle, why would you take more time off than you are on with a short cycle, when with a longer cycle, your only advised to take equal time off as you were on, just don't make no sense. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 333 |
your natural tests shuts down after 14 days of being on steroids. That's why you can't do a 3 week cycle. PERIOD!!! Four weeks off seems like the standard. I'm not going to argue it. It seems legitimate. I'm going to abide by it. Besides if you do multiple short cycle during the year. I think you can do like 7 or 8 if you do a two on four off cycle. On average you gain anywhere from 5-8lb. off these short cycles each time. That's 30+ lb. of solid lean body mass in a year. Its also easier on the body. Just trust me on this one.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 256 |
It makes perfect sense once you leave all the old theories and ideas about cycling behind you. If you can not let go of the "Same time off as On" principle, you will never short cycle successfully. In those 2 weeks, there is SOME supression of the body's HTPL, but the pituitary gland (which is the big one in my opinion for nat. hormone production), is no suppressed. You allow yourself those 4 weeks to ENSURE recovery. If you continually supress the HTPL axis, eventually your pituitary gland will downregulate, which is what is to be avoided. My first experiements with short cycles were for 3 weeks. However, this proved to be a mistake as there were gains lost. BUT, with 2 weeks cycles I have had great success. I have documented one of these such experiments on my webpage. --==MeanOne==-- | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
Thanks for the info bro's, good stuff there, I'm far from knowing all this stuff as much as y'all, just have a basic understanding, sounds interesting, and smarter, I just love staying on for those`10 weeks and enjoying the ride. Gettinbig2 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1194 |
I agree with Meaone 100%. He has been posting kick ass replies in regards to short cycles. I have tried only 3 weeks off and didn't gain as much. Like he said the HPTA is affected a little bit and I feel it still takes about 2 weeks for everything to be 100%. Once everything is 100% wait another 2 weeks and you are all set. Remember we are doing this on a consistant basis so we don't want to down regulate the HPTA. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 63 |
While 3 weeks 'on' is out of the question, I imagine one could take only 3 weeks off and then get back on without too many problems (as most guys do these cycles, 2 on 4 off, back to back). However, after the second, third, fourth cycle, It will begin to catch up with you.
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posted January 06, 2001 11:34 AM