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sbaset

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posted January 05, 2001 10:47 PM

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Would it be possible for the authorities to setup a website/email system for buying steriods, and then bust the individuals that buy personal quantities. We always talk about the potential of getting setup by customs, or being scammed, but not about the possiblilty that our domestic source may be a police authority of some kind? Am I way off base here? Comments?


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Loophole Genetics

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posted January 05, 2001 10:49 PM

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That thought is a given. That is one of the reasons that everyone stresses to check with MODS or other trustworthy people about your sources.


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Frackal

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posted January 05, 2001 11:35 PM

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Yeah. That's why I was thinking it's probably always a good idea (if available) to order some type of non-scheduled prescription drug like clen from a new domestic source to make sure he's for real.


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giantset

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posted January 06, 2001 01:48 AM

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Frackel, I hate to break it to you but I think clen is a schedule 3 drug. About the web site set up, Feds have already started setting up web sites like you mentioned but these sites are targeted at prescription meds that the average person might order from an overseas pharmacy. Like some narcotics or non-scheduled items that require a script in the US. Steroids seem to be a very small part of the mail order drug trade so I don't think the gov will dedicate very much manpower fighting off the steroid underground. Do a source check and you should be safe.

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sbaset

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posted January 06, 2001 02:04 AM

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Anyone else? Has anyone ever heard of someone getting busted by this method?


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FakingIt

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posted January 06, 2001 12:23 PM

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I am sure Feds could set people up in this manner. I know they have trapped many a pedophile by posing as a underage kid and then inviting the guy to visit. About 2 years ago a CEO at Disney was arrested in this manner. So they can set you up this way, its called a sting.

I am not comvinced completely they would only go for big shots. I think they just go for collars so they can keep a good record and keep funds flowing to their departments. I often suspect they let the big fish go in recreational drug busts, and take down the medium sized criminals. We might hear of a $500,000 drug bust in the news, but I believe it might pale in comparison to the one they let get away - perhaps for some payola.

My question really is could they do this overseas (with the cooperation of interpol or something). Could they set up an e mail account (you never really know where it is going) and have a snail mail address in Burma or some other place, and when they get the e mail order and the money thats all it would take.

One can get really paranoid thinking about this too much. Maybe open an e mail account on someones computer that you don't like, or at a copy shop that has a public access internet link, or a school computer. Then always post and read your e mail orders to the source from someone elses computer, or a public access computer. Then if you had a good shipping address it would be almost impossible to get caught.


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PowerLifter45

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posted January 06, 2001 02:33 PM

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its already been done


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mistermass

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posted January 06, 2001 04:04 PM

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Damn the Black Helicopters out in force today!!! LOL. JUst do your checks and you should be fine.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 06, 2001 04:14 PM

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Well I dont know about Law in America but I did study it here for 3 years and if the English authorities did that they would not be able to prosecute you as it would equal entraptment. It would all depend on the facts but if they made the first move then I dont know believe they would have a case. If you approach them on the other hand then you probably would get busted.

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Damian Borleone

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posted January 06, 2001 05:07 PM

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Giantset- clen isn't scheduled at all.

The FEDS could do anything they want but aren't going to go after a bunch steroid users. The cost of the operation would not justify the end result. Check out the DEA website and read about what type of operations they take part in.


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lizzy

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posted January 06, 2001 09:52 PM

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I don't know the law in the US but here in New Zealand if they set up a site and solicited orders from people, then that would be considered entrapment. You cannot be prosecuted under our laws if that is the case.


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xrciseink

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posted January 07, 2001 01:25 AM

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Unfortunately, some feds hate you. Thats the way it is. After all you deserve to be locked away for your attempt at creating a more cosmetically pleasing fisique. At what cost? They say your health, but there is absoloutely no evidence of this when these "supplements" are used in an educated manor. Hmmmm, implants for a woman are ok though....even though they have shown to be 100 times more dangerous than steroids. The key here is to know your laws and don't break them. There are a lot of loop-holes for personal use. Drugs like Growth Hormone and certain types of testosterone are not controlled in the US. There are also other "physique enhancement" products being sold OTI many people are not aware of. It takes time, patience, and research. You can do this without breaking the law. You may just have to pay a little more.
I would hope that the feds would spend a little more time trying to get petafilers and DANGEROUS criminals off the street than a small percentage of bodybuilders who just want to look better. Is that such a crime?
As far as clen goes.....in the UNITED STATES IT IS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. In the early nineties you were able to purchase it for personal use. They passed a law...around 93, 94 and made it a controlled substance in the US....so if you are ordering this, just know it is controlled.
--and yes it is possible.


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travis45

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posted January 07, 2001 04:12 AM

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They are not going to bust you for b/s. It would be a waste of there time. Don't worry about it!!!


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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 07, 2001 06:27 AM

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http://wings.buffalo.edu/Complaw/CompLawPapers/gugliel.html


i'm pretty sure it's entrapment when the cops approach you, and a crime if you approach them. if a cop dressed as a prostitute approaches you, that is entrapment, if you approach them and ask for sex, that is a crime. i think that that is how it works. predisposition to commit a crime.

[This message has been edited by Joseph_stalin (edited January 07, 2001).]


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