This one screams intelligent, doesn't it? So let me get this one straight. If you inject test and increase the amount of testosterone in your system by 1,000%, your sex drive will be non existent because your natural test will shut down? So I am assuming that you believe that synthetic test isn't molecularly close enough to natural test to promote sex drive, but it is close enough to build massive amounts of muscle? I suppose all the doctors that went to school for 10 years, and prescribe test for sexual dysfunction don't know what they are doing, do they? ANYWAY!

Gettinbig2, it should be obvious to you now that you will have to sift through much of the information on this board to get the correct answers you are looking for. If you take test by itself for muscle building purposes, a very nice side effect is that your sex drive will increase more than you could possibly imagine. When you stack test with other drugs, then you may run into problems with your sex drive.

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Who is the meanone:
Personal trainer, nutritional advisor, Former nationaly reconized wrestler, and working on a degree in hormone therapy (Biochem actually).

Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic"
- because of the information it contains, I am not permited to post the URL. If you would like to know it's URL Please email me at: [email protected]

Are you referring to me MeanOne? Oh and by the way, testosterone increases GH production around 21%, so your statement is extremely incorrect. And when increase the amount of test (no other AS) in your system, you will not depress the production of any of those hormones. If that were the case, then why do we experience a huge increase in sex drive when we go through puberty? Because that is when our testosterone levels increase the most, as do all other levels of hormones in the body. If test supressed levels of other hormones, then we would have never developed into adults.

Kodiak, yes I agree. After the end of your cycle you will most certainly experince a decrease in libido. Obviously if you reduce the amount of exogenous test while endogenous production has been halted, this is going to happen. I was speaking of sex drive while on test.

"Brain chemistry, the male sex drive, and affects of Anabolic Steriod administration" Dr. Fred T. Williams, 1993. Medical Economics listing number: 1258-w2

Who ever told you that the body produces 21% more GH while on is well...WRONG! For the first 2 weeks, this is very likely, do to the increased sensativity of the pituitary gland, but after this, you are just being mislead. The body is systematic. Learn this please! How do you think testosterone production is controled? By a simple signal? Well how easy, of course. Wrong. It's controlled by several of the above mentioned hormones, so when you make your body drop it's natural production...it does so by decreasing those hormones. (Thank you!)

Now then, what does this have to do with puberty? What are you thinking? When the male begins to enter puberty, it's SYSTEMATIC. This meaning that increased test ratios are so because of the increase in other hormones. Same with GH. Notice how as studies have proven, in older age groups, not only is test lower, but GH Seratonin, dopamine...yada yada. Educate yourself, then come to the discussion with something to prove.

Subjects 1-32 (ages 18-35)
Administration: 400mgs of Enanthate a week.
day 1, blood test revealed elevated levels of GH, Seratonin, LH hormone and of course, test.
Day 14, The elevated levels had begun to fall to normally ranges.
Day 21, LH hormones levels very low, GH levels have fallen some 20% below normal.
Day 28, LH hormones still remain heavily depressed, GH has fallen another 15% below pre-study ranges, free floating seratonin has begun to fall, by an average of 10% across the group.
Day 35, No better news...
Day 42, Levels of the tracked hormones, which were GH, Seratonin, Dopamine, and LH'es had all fallen well below pre study test ranges.
The other 25 subjects involved in the cycle were placebo only. Their hormone levels increased slightly during training.

Anyone notice how many people on this board enjoy playing with guns? LoL, scrolling down this post I just saw picture of gun after gun. Hee hee, I guess there is one thing better then a big roid'ed out freak in a fight...the good ole' gun.

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Who is the meanone:
Personal trainer, nutritional advisor, Former nationaly reconized wrestler, and working on a degree in hormone therapy (Biochem actually).

Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic"
- because of the information it contains, I am not permited to post the URL. If you would like to know it's URL Please email me at: [email protected]

Do I smell an invite of MeanOne back to anabolic fitness???

test stops going in: Dick goes down

If you live in a large city, go to the largest library's main branch. Once there, ask for help in find medical reference material. They should direct you to a vast section. Most likely you find PDA's, Economics Medical Articles (if not entire volumes of books), and countless studies. The trick is shifting through all the crap you don't care about to find the ones dealing if hormones, and anabolic steriods. It's not something you can just go to the library and walk out 15 minutes later with 10 books. If your really interested, plan on investing some hard time, and get a tiny pellow to put on those HARD chairs because they weren't made to hold the glutes of a 240lb. bodybuilder in comfort, let me tell you.
Also, one little edition: Melatonin - I forget that's a big one in helping along the male sex drive.
I will be graduted hopefully here in a few months once I finish up some onsite work and type up my evalutions and conclusions about the study I am preforming (for school). You guys should like this - it's basicly determaining whether the contractile ability of a single bundle of muscle fibers in a petrie dish will contract with a greater force (IE, distance of shirnkage) when an electric current is applied to them..in the presence of ATP or not. That's the basic frm of it, it's a bit more complex (vastly so), but I will let you guys know what the results are when all's done and finished.

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Who is the meanone:
Personal trainer, nutritional advisor, Former nationaly reconized wrestler, and working on a degree in hormone therapy (Biochem actually).

Owner of "The Anabolic Clinic"
- because of the information it contains, I am not permited to post the URL. If you would like to know it's URL Please email me at: [email protected]