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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 01:41 PM

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this monday i am gonna start my first cycle ever, i have 16 duratestons, 16 cyctohohs, and 2000ml of deca, i can get more easily but it is my first cycle, i am 19yrs old, 6'3", about 250, low teens in body fat
i am gonna do either a 8 or 10 week cycle, dont quite know yet, i was gonna add dbol but i will wait to add that, i figure cause this is my first i can add close to 25-30 pounds from this one only, i am gonna do 1 cyctohoh and 1 durateston a week for like i said 8-10 weeks, and i am gonna do the deca at 400mg the first week and 200 all the weeks after, i am gonna pick up some anti-estrogen before i start and ill get some clomid during for post cycle recovery of my boys
i would love to hear everyone's comments, etc.....
i know alot will say bump up this, bump up that, add that, but i am not an advocate right now, and here is why
i am 19, although i know that my first will be my best, i am not going to super de-duper blast my self cause then when i am 23 what the hell will i be doing? 5grams of test a week just for an appetizer? i figure if start at that now, i can get some great mass, then after (i am never using primo, i dont want to lose my hair, i am extremely self conscience about my hair) i will go into maybe some low test doses, maybe some prop, as well as winny, eq, fina, clen, eca, the list goes on
i was originally gonna do 500 a week for 8 weeks of sus, 40mg a day for 5 weeks of dbol, and 400mg a week for 8 weeks of deca, but it has come to my attention by a good friend that that is gona be a littl emuch for my first, i want to hit it good, thats why i am gonna do test and deca, but an all out warfare first cycle will not be good, yes, i might gain 40lbs, but i will have to 3x the dose to get even close to the same results, and like i said, i turned 19 late last year, im in my 2nd year at college, and i know i am gonna juice for at least 5-7 years more if not more

all your opinions i await, i am really interested IN ALL YOUR THOUGHTS, newbies included

<3
Me

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browndog1

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posted January 05, 2001 01:48 PM

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I'd go back to the original plan --with 500/week of the sust, only difference is do it with a bit less dbol 5-6/day for 5 weeks and 300mg/week, up to 400mg, then back down on the deca.

good luck.

...bd


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Gettinbig2

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posted January 05, 2001 02:11 PM

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I can tell your happier than a pig in shit gettin ready to start this cycle.. do yourself a favor, take some D Bol the first few weeks of that cycle to get the gains to kick in till the Susta takes over, you'll be glad you did, since its your first, you don't need to much to grow, Id say 4,5,,4 3, on the D Bol if I was you, that is similar to what I did for my second cycle, and it worked great, good luck, and take care.
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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 02:20 PM

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thanks guys, i appreciate it

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landry

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posted January 05, 2001 02:27 PM

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Hey Depp, I have to agree with the bros. If you can, grab some d-bol. I know that you will be waiting for the sust and deca to kick in and the d-bol will put you on right away. The pumps you'll get are awesome. I just finished a cycle very similar to yours except I ran EQ from week 6 to week 10 and gained a solid 33 lbs. If you can't do the d-bol, enjoy the ride (As a good bro said to me).


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EXerTION

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posted January 05, 2001 02:47 PM

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Hey bro, I also agree that you should throw in some d-bol at the beginning to get a kick start. On my first cycle, I did a sust only cycle at 500mg per week, and boy....I wish I would have gotten some d-bol at the beginning because the sust took awhile to kick in. This is just my experience though. Good luck with your first cycle!!!


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posted January 05, 2001 02:51 PM

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He bro have some clomid and nolv on hand
nolv in just in case you dont want tits in
your first cycle


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Checkmatebloated

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posted January 05, 2001 02:54 PM

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I personally feel that is a lot for a first timer. get big


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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 03:36 PM

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check, id love to hear your thoughts, email me or just respond, u think that is alot for a newbie?? id love to hear


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posted January 05, 2001 03:50 PM

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deep go for it baby get big


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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 04:06 PM

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thanks guys, guess the mods are out shoveling snow

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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 06:29 PM

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how many shakes do you guys drink a day?

i figure i need around 500grams of protein, and cause ill be at school ill only have 3 meals of 50-60 grams a day, so that means i need like 6 shakes a day, what u guys think
cause i cant have that much at a time like 200grams u dont absorb it

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DRRman

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posted January 05, 2001 06:34 PM

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bro, i liked your original idea much better. You said you had 32 total ampules of 250mg per ml test right. I would do 750mg the first week, then 500 weeks 2-10. Along with 400mg per week of deca all the way through. And 40mg of dball per day for weeks 1-4 and i promise you'll love it!!


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Checkmatebloated

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posted January 05, 2001 06:35 PM

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Just from personal exp. I took 3 d-bol a day for 33 days for my first cycle. I was 14 or 15 years old. I had great result just from that alone. However now being involve in the stuff for 15 years I agree with using a couple of differnt kinds instead of just one. However I do not thing you need but a shot of 250 about every 5th day. you are going to get great result from your first cycle and it is just my thoughts that you are using/wasting some juice and money by doing this much on you first cycle.


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Checkmatebloated

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posted January 05, 2001 06:36 PM

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eat, eat, eat, and wake up in the middle of the night for a slice of turkey and shake and go back to bed. then eat eat.


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Gatecrasher

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posted January 05, 2001 06:37 PM

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Like everyone else said: Add Dbol! I did a sust only cycle, and the first few weeks felt like I wasn't on anything. I never really felt like I was on, until about the 4th week I noticed the weights felt about 30% lighter, and hey where'd those 10 pounds come from?

Good luck and remember the injections get easier and easier.

GC

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MP5

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posted January 05, 2001 06:42 PM

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I think you are yet another impatient 19 year old that is too young to juice.

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posted January 05, 2001 06:45 PM

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i started at 20 yrs old and i don't regret it one bit. Although it may be better to wait a few years, i say if you are mentally and physically ready for it, then do it. 250 lbs, you sound like you'll be ok.


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posted January 05, 2001 07:10 PM

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I reckon at 500 grams of protein per day you will be blasting people away with your protein farts.

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Deppnade

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quote:
Originally posted by DRRman:
bro, i liked your original idea much better. You said you had 32 total ampules of 250mg per ml test right. I would do 750mg the first week, then 500 weeks 2-10. Along with 400mg per week of deca all the way through. And 40mg of dball per day for weeks 1-4 and i promise you'll love it!!

dr, dont you think thats a bit extreme, 750 for my first cycle at 19?? what am i gonna be at 24 then? 5 grams?
also, checkmate, u tink 500mg a week of sus, 1 cyctoho and 1 dura is good along with 400mg of deca with 200 mg following it after till im done? what u think? i like ur advice cause u know the reality for a younger newbie that is educated and also wants to juice

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posted January 05, 2001 09:27 PM

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Deppnade
getting pussy Deppnade is getting pussy

Three cheers Enjoy and Be safe Grow like a Weed
Jay

If you need any help
I think you have my e-mail

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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 09:55 PM

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bigjay, on the subject, i heard your mom..., just kidding bro, how u like my cycle, i know ull say bump up but what u think?
500mg sus for 8-10 weeks(1 cyctohoh and 1 durateston)
deca 400mg week 1 then 200mg for rest of cycle

nolva on hand, actually 30 of em, and clomid for little guys recovery

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I like the last one the best bro. . .the first one was in my opinion a little extreme. . .get used to the gear and see how your body reacts. . .your very young and have plenty of time to experiment.

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I thnk it looks Good. And you thought it out. I say keep the dossage as it is no need to over-kill. You made an informed decission and stick with it.

Looks good.

And tell anyone who has a problem with the age aspect to Lick A Dick. Your ready when you make the choice to do it.
Jay

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Deppnade

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posted January 05, 2001 10:04 PM

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kodiak, you like the cycle of 500mg a week and the deca of 400 then 200 till end?? a super reliable guy advised me, he is a great guy
you want to know why i trust him?i know all of you may have your 4 stars, guru status, whatever may be, but he is 5 11, almost 3 bills, 2 pack, and i saw him in a t shirt and jeans, and let me tell you, he showed me his shoulder cause he recommends i shoot into my medial delt, and holy shit, how do you spell fucking huge??

i will take the advice of a 300lb monster any day, no offense to anyone here at all, you are all geniouses, but how do you argue with ACTUAL RESULTS, KNOW WHAT I MEAN??

thanks


and iron, ill save one of my protein farts in a bottle and send it to you for a late christmas gift


thanks for the support jay, i know your in the same boat as i am, i appreciate it 911


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Deppnade

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posted January 06, 2001 02:17 AM

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what kind of lifting regimen should i follow???? 4-6 reps, 6-8 reps, 8-12 reps, i want to know what everyone uses while they are on their cycle.....

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DRRman

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your regimen is up to you, i said 750mgs only on the first week bro, not all the way through. 500 all the way is a great number also. I just think you should hit it very very hard on your first go round, and that DOES NOT mean you'll need 5 grams to grow when you are 24. One of the biggest guys i know still never goes over a gram of test and hes 34 and been juicing for years!


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posted January 06, 2001 09:35 AM

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Dont do more than 1 sus/week along with your other stuff. you'll have time to do 500mg in the future.


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Deppnade

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posted January 06, 2001 10:12 AM

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thanks guys, its time to get nolva

what are ur guys thoughts on the rep scheme?

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Deppnade

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posted January 06, 2001 06:43 PM

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what u guys think..........


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well dep i through in a mixture of all- 1st set 15reps-2nd set failure at 10-12 reps 3 set 8-10failure and last set 6-8failure and maybe a couple of assisted sets or occasionally a drop set-at first your gonna want to do 20 sets but don't!legs maybe! but arms 12 sets max-back shoulders and chest 12-16 sets max- and legs just kill em.2 days on i off works best for me-ex:

day1: chest, bis
day2:legs
days: rest
day4: shoulders,tris
day5: back
day6: rest
day7: start again

larger body parts shouldn't take more than 50 min and arms no more then 35.

always change routine and do something to shock the muscles every atleast once a month.
let workouts revolve around major lifts-like bench, squat,presses, deadlifts

good luck and eat like the big horse you are!


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Keep it beefy

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I agree with jdabull about the cycle. I've actually been on the exact same training cycle that you posted for a few years now. Occasionally I switch it up for confusion but after a while, soreness makes me come back to the same old 2 on 1 off cycle, and it has always worked well, giving my body the perfect amount of rest.


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