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  ARE VET STEROIDS REALLY DESIGNED FOR ANIMAL RECEPTORS?

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ULTRAMAN

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posted January 05, 2001 08:41 AM

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I READ THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR ANIMAL RECEPTORS AND WILL WORK IN HUMANS BUT MUCH IS WASTED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE MOLECULE IS LOOKING TO ATTACH TO AN ANIMAL RECEPTOR WHICH IS NOT THERE.ANY TRUTH TO THIS?I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE IDENTICAL COMPOUND.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 05, 2001 08:48 AM

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Eq & Deca need I say more, I dont believe that info you read has the slightest ounce of truth in it. But who knows.

PS where did you read that, perhaps post the article?

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jdismukes

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posted January 05, 2001 09:20 AM

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Do not use vet gear, if you have any eq please e-mail me so I can properly dispose of it!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 05, 2001 09:26 AM

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Lol @ Jdismukes


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GetHuge

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posted January 05, 2001 09:50 AM

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No, animals and humans have the same receptors. Test is to a horse the same as it is to a human. Generally, the products are less effective because of impurities.


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panerai

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posted January 05, 2001 09:51 AM

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If you're talking about bioavailability here,yes,that makes sense.
But the source of information could help,also.


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Beezers

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posted January 05, 2001 10:40 AM

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An androgen receptor is an androgen receptor, and testosterone is testosterone.


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E2

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posted January 05, 2001 10:48 AM

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Well there is truth to this statement, while the androgen receptor is stimulated by drugs, animals as well have certain receptors that we don't have. For instance clenbuterol is an anabolic steroid IN ANIMAL (dogs etc..) in humans we dont' have the receptor that clenbuterol binds too in humans so it goes around searching for somewhere to bind, fortuntely it finds and antagonizes the beta-2 receptor in humans.

So there is some truth to that statement. Personally i feel that human drugs are almost always of a much higer quality than vet drugs, especially when most vet drugs come from mexico.

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Jeff_rys

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posted January 05, 2001 04:28 PM

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When i posted a week ago that vet roids don't have the same quality check has human roids i got the wind in front.
Still i must point out that it was Captain Dbol who stated (in his good days) on the Aussie side that there was a big difference.
Period.
So yes i believe it is better to use human grade roids, if possible.
For what it is worth.

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GymRatSD

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posted January 05, 2001 04:31 PM

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Jeff_rys, ever work at a pharmaceutical laboratory that produces both human and veterinary products? NO? I have.


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DreamingBig

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posted January 06, 2001 04:51 AM

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WELL, we are all animals, dogs, humans, cats, and horses (lizards, flys, and worms also), but I see what you mean. While some drugs do differ in their effects on humans as opposed to, lets say, a dog, I believe testosterone/AS is/are effective in all placental mammals, as the placental mammals have the receptors that AS bind to.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 06, 2001 05:29 AM

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Hey E2, hows it going? I am gonna have to agree with you, but also disagree to an extent about the clen thing. It is anti catabolic when used in humans because of the doses but feed that to cows and it becomes anabolic. This is because the amount they give a cow is much greater than a human would ever consider taking. There is an issue with un sterile products here but for most parts purity of a vet steroid compared to a human steroid is only slightly different. 99.9% pure vet medicines compared to 99.99% human medicines

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GetHuge

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posted January 06, 2001 09:10 AM

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yes, but you have to remember that animals take several milligrams of Clen where humans can only stand micrograms. If a human could survive taking clen in mg doses, perhaps it would act as a steroid in us as well.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 06, 2001 09:44 AM

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Yes GetHuge that is exactly what I said

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BigPharmBoy

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posted January 06, 2001 02:58 PM

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No I am pretty sure that animal and I have the same receptors at least that is what he was telling me LOL

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animal B

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posted January 06, 2001 03:12 PM

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I am not an animal........I am animal B


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