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skoal

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posted January 04, 2001 11:44 PM

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Sup fellas

I am 21, training for 2 years. I weigh about 165, at 5'10. This is what i have planned so far. I am going to use Sust, dbol, aratest, and EQ. I wanted all sust but I ran out of funds and had to buy aratest. I want to run it for 10 weeks.
I plan on taking Nolvadex at 20 mg EOD, and 50 MG clomid EOD. What do you guys think about the doses? I want to gain 30 or so pounds of this cycle. Maybe keep 20 to 25 hopefully. I was also wondering if you guys could tell me how to run the clomid at the end of the cycle??


Here it is.

Dbol
30 mg for weeks 1 through 5, then end without taper

Sust
500 mg for all 10 weeks

Aratest
250 mg for all 10 weeks

Eq
400 mg for all 10 weeks

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PapaSmurf428

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posted January 04, 2001 11:53 PM

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with the sust at 500 mg for ten weeks you dont really need the aratest. The clomid should be taken at 50mg EOD the last two or so weeks of tghe cycle and then up it to 50mg or 100mg ED...whatever your comfortable with. Just my opinion.


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skoal

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posted January 05, 2001 12:14 AM

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bump


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DreaDlorD

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posted January 05, 2001 12:27 AM

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I asked a similar question yesterday and bros told me that the most effective way to run sust is one 250mg shot every day (or at least every other day) for 21 days.

This seemed like a lot to me (it is only my second cycle and I have similar stats as you). However, I got the impression that taking a shot of sust less than every day will not utilize the shortest acting esters that are present in it. It is like wasting them.


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skoal

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posted January 05, 2001 05:13 PM

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Judge Smales

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posted January 05, 2001 05:15 PM

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I'd drop the Ara. Really isn't nessesary w/ the sus.


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Beezers

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posted January 05, 2001 06:31 PM

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This is somewhat heavy for a first cycle...But I like it. You would do fine without the ARA though. I would run it like it is. I did test at 750 my first cycle. Really wish I did a gram...But I don't recomend that. The only side I get is water retention. So I'm not side effect sensative...You never know if you are until you go through with it. If you feel confident with this cycle then do it. It is set up very well.

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DRRman

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posted January 05, 2001 06:36 PM

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looks good to me bro, do clomid EOD and following your last sust shot do clomid at 100mg per day for two weeks. i wouldnt use the nolva unless gyno started, i swear it hurts my gains anyways. I like adding the ara, i've mixed sus and ara before to add to my total test count. Looks good


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dave1975

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posted January 05, 2001 06:37 PM

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That is a ton of stuff for your first cycle!! Drop the Aratest....you will grow like a weed!


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