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adam739

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posted January 04, 2001 07:58 AM

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I'm 5'6, 165 lbs and have never done AS.
Gonna do a Sust, Deca, and Winstrol cycle
for 8 weeks. I see everybody doing 500mg of
Sust and 400 of Deca, is that too much for first time or should I stick with the lower dosages of 250mg of Sust and 200 of Deca?


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YAKUZA

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posted January 04, 2001 08:21 AM

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Personally, I'd do the 500 and 400. If you're gonna do it, you may as well do it right. Especially your first cycle when you get your best gains.


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unAbomber

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posted January 04, 2001 08:31 AM

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Try shooting sust 250mg every 5 days, i have got pretty awesome gain with that and primo 200mg every 4-5days. First cycle ofc =) Tossed winny to end, just started it


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mr.huge

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posted January 04, 2001 08:57 AM

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you'll gain the most your first cycle so id stick to the higher dosages. youll keep more gains this cycle as well if you take all the proper precautions you should be impressed.

mr.huge


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Andy13

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posted January 04, 2001 02:24 PM

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Guys, why do we have to go here?

As Bill Robert's says (it's my favorite line of his.. he's not a very funny guy)...

"You dont have a counter inside your body counting how many cycles you have done..."

The gains you make from a cycle reflect how far you are from your natural limit.. NOT wether or not it's your first time. If you have used roids in the past and then allowed yourself to return to your natural, untrained state and you began using roids again, your results would be similar to your 'magical' first cycle.

Andy


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thefacelessballer

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posted January 04, 2001 02:36 PM

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im gonna try 250mg sust every 5 days plus some d-bol, for my first cycle i think that if you go too heavy on your first cycle you will, just require more juice for you 2nd, 3rd, 250 every 5 days works out to around 350mg sust a week, i thik that this is adequite for you first cycle,, i would try that and add 300-400mg deca to

unAbomber what were your gains @ 250mssust every 5 days??


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macavoy

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posted January 04, 2001 03:36 PM

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To the original poster,at 165 lbs and your first cycle I would go with just sust 250 once a week and see how it goes. YOur second cycle I would go with just deca at 300 mg per week. At your weight you shouold make great gains of these. Dont stack till you see how you do on diff substances. Hint hint,its no the working out its the FOOD that makes you grow where you want to be.


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thefacelessballer

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posted January 04, 2001 07:32 PM

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bump


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Cornellius

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posted January 04, 2001 08:10 PM

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You are gonna hear a lot of different opinions. Since it�s your first cycle I would go with the 250 200 stack. If you are doing everithing right (train, eat, sleep) you can easly gain 15-20 pounds.

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jdabull

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posted January 05, 2001 02:02 AM

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dude i'm on my 1st cycle in a long time and started light at 400/deca and sust/300 and in 4wks i'm up 12lbs and i am 5'5 212 and been lifting for a long time so if your at 165 i would say start at the minimum and work up- you will see gains!most of the guys on the board ahve taken advice to start at 500 of this and 500 of this so they have never tried at lower doses therefor will never no what the gains would of been!be patient and eat like a horse and lift like a fuckin bull! then go higher if ya want to do another cycle.


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X-Man

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posted January 05, 2001 05:18 AM

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500mg sust and 400mg deca is perfect..throw some winny in at 50mg eod and your set..


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