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big_liftin

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posted January 03, 2001 11:52 PM

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What kind of effects would anabolics have on the body if naturally occuring gyno has previously been surgically removed.
Im guessing the answer is bad, but I am new and am trying to learn.
Please be serious!

Thanks in advance.


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KODIAK99

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posted January 03, 2001 11:58 PM

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You could gain gyno again. . .

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If you are going to be a bear. . .be a big fucking bear!!!!!


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Heemaann445

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posted January 04, 2001 12:00 AM

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If your meaning "natural" gyno, I'm thinking your meaning that your prone to it. Which if your prone to it, your most likely gonna get it from doing a cycle. Though you could bulk up on the Nolvadex, theres truly no guarantee since your prone to getting it.

If you've had it like me, obtained through juice use, had it cut out, and went back on gear, just play it safe, use the nolvadex when you feel tingling or itching or pain and most likely you'll be fine.

I'm back on the gear for a couple years after gyno surgery 3 years or so ago, no problems....knock on wood.....


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big_liftin

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posted January 04, 2001 12:05 AM

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thanks guys.

yes, by naturally occuring I meant that I had it, got it removed, and am assuming I am still prone to getting it.

that sucks.....guess naturally occuring gyno calls for a "natural" bodybuilding program.


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bigpun

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posted January 04, 2001 12:14 AM

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If you are really concerned but still set on using AS, use Arimidex (you may want to even use Nolvadex also but that may be just overkill). From what the lads on this board have said, it sounds like it's well worth the money.


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Osiris

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posted January 04, 2001 12:18 AM

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You something for sure. I have had gyno removed once when I was 17(never used juice then either). I am 29 now, and during the last cycl it came back even though I used nolvadex. I will probably need surgery again within the next 2 years. Right now it is very small. Be careful. But juice makes it worth it.


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Heemaann445

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posted January 04, 2001 12:23 AM

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By making the decision to use juice again after gyno, I accepted the risk involved.

I wouldnt advise a person one way or the other, it depends on your own idividual personality.

As for me, I found out the time I got gyno, that I absolutely had to be big and strong. I lost a bit over 50lbs from my experience from no lifting, being sick, and of course, no juice. I hated it, it took me so long to get big, 230lbs @ 6'1, and now I lost it.
Thank God for giving me will-power, I started back drug free for a few months, gained a good bit back, gains started to slow, so I did a light d-bol cycle, had no problems, so a few months later did some enanthate, and so on.....so far so good, I've recently hit 250, and now hold any easy 235-240.

The decisions yours, just know and *accept* the risks.


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big_liftin

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posted January 04, 2001 12:39 AM

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Thanks for your replys.

I understand that there are risks to be accepted when using juice, especially if I am already prone to gyno. Its for this reason that I am gonna keep researching and see what kind of decision I come up with.

I have a question though. Since I am not that educated in this subject, I may be wrong, so please bear with me. I have read that certain anabolics, such as primo, do not aromatize, therefore eliminating any chance of gyno. Is this true, are there any steroids that will not convert to estrogen, and if that is the case, is that the only thing that could cause gyno?

I understand primo used by itself may not give me very significant gains, but that is not really what I am looking for. At 21 years old, I am 6'3", 210, with 8% bf, all from hard and dedicated lifting. Actually, the irony lies in the fact that the gyno is what made me work so hard on my body to boost back my lost self esteem (sorry for the sob story) Anyway, I think I may be approaching my natural peak or a lull in my gains, and was just looking for something to add 10 pounds of lean mass. What do you guys think?

Sorry so long, but again I appreciate all of your honest advice.


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deify

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posted January 04, 2001 01:29 AM

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Yes, doing a primo only cycle would be very safe and you couldn't get gyno off of it. I'd highly recommend a primo only cycle or primo/dianabol (only like 100 tabs though over 4 weeks (4,4,3,3) and you should be straight. Maybe have a box of nolva on hand just in case, but you probably won't need it.


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big_liftin

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posted January 04, 2001 09:59 AM

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Great, thats what I was hoping to hear. If I did a primo only cycle, what kind of gains could I expect? I think I would rather be cautious and only use primo, instead of stacking it with dianabol. If so, would I still need some nolva, or would there be no need.

Thanks again


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