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  How would you split these orals up each day? Is this all correct?

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Little Monster

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posted January 03, 2001 10:49 PM

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I have been researching several different orals to take during/after the cycle. But, I was not completely sure how accurate my information is. Can you please confirm or change any of this info?


Provirion: Should take 25mg to 50mg spaced out 4 times per day. This does not help to maintain results after a cycle, but acts as an anti-estrogen. Cures problem of aromitization at its root rather than trying to fix it later like Nolvadex. It increases androgen levels which leads to harder, denser muscles, but also occupies some of the receptors, therefore slightly hindering gains. HOW LONG DURING OR AFTER CYCLE SHOULD THIS BE TAKEN?

Nolvadex: Take 10mg- 20mg per day. Anti-estrogen that helps prevent gyno symptoms by occupying estrogen receptors. Also might hinder gains by filling some androgen receptors. HOW SHOULD THIS BE TAKEN DURING THE DAY? SPLIT UP OR ALL AT ONCE?

HCG: Mix powder and solution, inject intramuscularly either once a week for 2 weeks, or smaller doses every few days for 2 weeks. Can also take for 2 weeks mid cycle to boost natural test and again for 2 weeks after cycle, before clomid use. Must refridgerate leftovers which are good up to 10 weeks.

Clomid: 50mg tabs should be taken with meals. Can take 50mg every other day during cycle and up to 100mg per day at end of cycle for a week. Helps keep natural test levels up and blocks some effects of estrogen.

Cynomel: 25mcg per tab. Should taper up slowly by adding 1 tab every 4 days, not to exceed 125mcgs per day. Should taper back down slowly to allow thyroid to recover and produce naturally again. Significantly helps to burn calories through raised metabolism and body temperature. 95% of dose absorbed within 4 hours through gi tract. Daily dose should be broken down into 3 smaller doses. Most effective when combined with Clenbuterol. Should be taken for less than 5-6 weeks at a time. WHEN IS THE BEST TIME DURING OR AFTER THE CYCLE TO TAKE? LAST 5 WEEKS AFTER EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE, OR IN COMBINATION FOR LAST 5 WEEKS?

Clenbuterol: .2mcg tablets or syrup form. 4-8 tabs per day to help burn fat and calories. Raises body temp and acts similar to adrenaline. Should take 16 days on, 14 days off. IS THIS RIGHT?

Once again, this just some stuff from here and there on the internet and discussion boards. I do not know how accurate it all is, so I'm asking for your help and explanations.


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browndog1

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posted January 03, 2001 10:56 PM

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Overkill.

...bd


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Little Monster

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posted January 03, 2001 11:00 PM

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So what would you do then BD?


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Little Monster

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posted January 04, 2001 12:47 AM

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come on, anyone else have any suggestions or changes??


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deify

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With the proviron, don't even worry about spacing it out 4 times/day. That is overkill and will only have you worrying about how to explain those proviron pills that fell out of your pocket when you go to flat bench. 1 or 2 pills (25 mg) will be fine depending on how much androgens you are using, and how much estrogen you need blocked. Take this during your most androgenous part of cycle (ie: when cycling DBOL/Sust). When you swing to more anabolics (ie: DECA) you won't need it.

With the Nolvadex, just split the 20 mg tab in half, once a day if you need it. You may not need it though and I have found that with the board, the popular thing to do is to wait until you notice some itching under a nipple, then use the nolvadex. Especially with the proviron, Nolvadex also would probably be overkill and cut into your gains.

I have never used the HCG, but I believe you take this dose just twice to swell up your nuts after they have turned small, then use the clomid orals to keep this gains and help it. Clomid works just fine for me.


I'm not touching the cynomel with a 10 foot pole. I think that fucking with the thyroid like that is too risky.

With the clen you can do 2 things. Either take it for 14 days in an ascending cycle or take the tabs 2 days on 2 days off. The latter works better for me as once you come off the 14 days on, you are a vegie burrito.



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Little Monster

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posted January 04, 2001 01:47 AM

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sweet! thanks for your help!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 04, 2001 04:21 AM

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If you are using proviron 50mgs/ day is sufficent for no more than 3 weeks at a time, although some people do use longer with no problems and at higher doses.

HCG I wouldnt bother using it but if you do, do it about 1 wk before last steroid is finished. Use Nolva at this time as well combined with Proviron.

Since you are taking clomid throughout your cycle then it would be best to use it for 3 wks afterwards as well. 100mgs for first 2 wks and 50mgs for 3rd week, possibly 50mgs 4th week as well.

Anyway hope this helps, but it is just my opinion

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