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 What do u guys thing about vitamins?
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 20 |
Are they all the same? I've heard some will not absorb into your system and you just shit them out. What do you guys thing? Thanks for any help!     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 113 |
Me things you like your thing to much! Think before you thing! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 638 |
HAH HAH HAH I thought "215lbs of Twisted Steel and sex appeal" Twisted Steel asking about vitamins??? HAH HAH HAH ovbiously you're not the same guy. Anyway, to your question, I would use a multivitamin that's in capsules, not tablets. tablets most likely are not absorbed very well. If you're gonna use tablets, try to take them with a meal, so the stomach enzymes have a better chance to eat at them. As far as absorbtion (did I spell this right?) the vitamins with probably absorb, especially water soluble ones. As for the mineral, I doubt they absorb at all, because some minerals compete against each other. I would take a multivitamin (no minerals) then supplement with specific minerals throughout the day. ------------------
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
change your name please.. theres already a vet here w/to close of a name to yours--its to confusing, he has a rep already---you just got here, so it shouldnt be much in asking you to change your handle....thanks and welcome to the board! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1091 |
The best way to tell if a tablet is going to dissolve properly is to place it in a plastic bag with a good about of 5% vinegar. This roughly mimics the pH level of the stomach. If the tablet dissolves within 20 to 30 minutes, it's a good formulation. BTW... change your handle. It's much too confusing. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2016 |
V&M Plan With all the talk on stacking this with that, how much protein, carbs or fat should one eat, and all the different work out regimes, I thought I would post up my vitamin and mineral supplement plan both while on and off a cycle. Cause lets face it, all the protein and 'roids in the world won't amount to a hill of beans if you not getting the required amount of V&M to BUILD that muscle. Feel free to make any comments to better improve what I've come up with.
B1 (Thiamin)150mg - Fat-soluble forms of thiamin, called allithiamins, are superior to water-soluble forms. B2 (Riboflavin) 125mg. B3 (Niacin, Niacinamide)50mg. B6 (Pyridoxine)30mg - Pyridoxine hydrochloride is every bit as good as pyridoxal-5-phosphate (P-5-P) and 0 is often much cheaper. Pivotal role in the formation of heme, a portion of hemoglobin, affects B12 absorption and B6 levels. B5 (Pantothenic Acid)75mg. Folate ( Folic Acid, Folacin)400mcg - Affects iron status, must have folate to keep iron stores up. B12 (Cyanocobalamin)10mcg - Required to make blood cells and essential for normal folate metabolism. Dibencoside is a derivative of B12, very expensive and your body converts it from B12 anyway. C (Ascorbate) 5g off cycle / 8g on cycle -Calcium or magnesium ascorbate versions are better than regular ascorbic acid. Ester-C is a scam. Major antioxidant - use for cycle. Use in multiple dose, can cause diarrhea. Insufficient C will reduce your folate & iron stores. D (Cholecalciferol) 10mcg - RDA is 10 mcg, this is as much as you want to supplement - toxic at 5x RDA. E (D-alpha-tocopherol) 1000mg off cycle / 1500 on cycle - Major antioxidant, use for cycle. Essential for normal metabolism of B12, Zinc, and red blood. Major effect on immune strength. Do not get the synthetic dl-alpha-tocopherol. K (Phylloquinone) 100mcg - Do not get the menadione form of Vitamin K. Biotin 1000mcg - Raw egg whites contain avidin which prevents absorption. Choline 250mg Inositol 200mg Coenzyme Q10 (Ubiquinone) 30mg off cycle / 60on cycle - Major antioxidant. Bioflavonoids 250 mg - Many Vitamin C supplements have these combined. Pyrolloquinolone Quinone (PQQ) No know dose - best sources are unprocessed citrus fruits. Para-amino-benzoic Acid (PABA) 25 mg
* Calcium gluconate - Only 9% elemental calcium - don't buy it * Calcium carbonate - 40% elemental calcium (e.c.) with a 39% absorption rate (a.r.) * Calcium acetate 23% e.c. with a 32% a.r. * Calcium citrate 21% e.c. with a 30% a.r. * Calcium lactate 14 % e.c. * Milk 1% e.c. with a 27% a.r. Magnesium 1200mg - Cramps can be a sign of low mag. Get Mag. Aspartate-10x better. Potassium 250mg Iron 20mg - Calcium, fiber, and antacids inhibit absorption. Vitamin C helps absorption.. Iron sulphate or iron oxide is useless compared to ferrous fumarate or iron picolinate. Zinc 30mg - Large doses interfere with copper metabolism. Use zinc picolinate. Affects iron status, must have zinc to keep iron stores up. Copper 2mg Manganese 5mg Chromium 400mcg - Use C. picolinate, not C. chloride or C. nicotinate Selenium 400mcg - Use L-selenomethionine or Horsetail herb. Sodium selenite is useless. Very good antioxidant. Iodine 125mcg Boron 4mg - Use boron citrate and/or aspartate. Molybdenum 100 mcg N-acetyl cysteine 400mg only while on cycle Major antioxidant - can prevent muscle damage L-glutathione 75mg off cycle / 300mg on cycle Major antioxidant - can prevent muscle damage in conjunction with N-acetyl - use for cycle. L-carnitine 1g/2g - Take one hour before exercise. DL-carnitine or racemix carnitine is toxic. Branched Chain Amino Acids - Eaten with meals throughout the day. * Leucine 2.5g off cycle / 5g on cycle Evening Primrose Oil 2000mg off / 4000mg on Flaxseed Oil 1000mg off / 2000mg of - Liquid form only. Milk Thistle 500mg on only. Glucosamine 2000mg - optional (for you old farts Melatonin 20mg - Taken about 30 min before bed, very nice sleep (yes� 20mg) I LOVE THIS SHIT! I also take a daily ounce of a poly -colloidal mineral with a big glass of water. Now I'm not 100% sure this is all it's cracked up to be, but it's only like $9.00 for a months supply and if it is even half of what "they" say then it is worth it to me. Now some of you might think this is a bit over board, but my strength and weight gains have been showing a nice, steady improvement since I took a hard look at my "legal" supplementation. I've been tracking my expenses, found a good vitamin mail-order supply company, and for BOTH my wife and I it has been running about $120 a month. (It does help to buy in bulk and get that discount.) Late Lobo p.s. SHIT, that took about an hour to line up and post ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
if i recall there is a test you can do to see how fast they absorb or absorb at all. put them in a glass of vinegar,i'm pretty sure its vinegar.heres my take on quality vitamins.i bought cheap wal-mart vits. and expensive vits. did the test and the cheap ones dissolved faster!now i work for a chemical company and the dept. i work in makes pool chlorine or CL2.now we make 2 different kinds of CL2,meaning ones CL2 is higher than the other.heres the moral of the story.there are 3 companies in the world that make pool CL2, but we package it in 80 different brands!now every 1 thinks these are all different companies and if it were the profit potential would be very low, however only 3 companies make this stuff,so what i'm saying the same is true for everything else.canned foods,motor oil,gasoline you name it there is a few companies that make it and every 1 else puts their label on it.so i buy cheap vits. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
also i've been told that one company makes all the vit.C it was on 60 minutes years ago i beleive. |
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posted January 02, 2001 04:53 PM