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JUICESEEKER

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posted January 02, 2001 11:39 AM

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IS IT A FACT OR A MYTH THAT STEROIDS CAN MAKE YOU AGE FASTER. I WOULD THINK THAT IT KEEPS YOU YOUNGER SINCE OLDER PEOPLE PRODUCE LESS TEST. CAN SOMEBODY ENLIGHTEN ME?


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Julez

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posted January 02, 2001 11:42 AM

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Well, I know plenty of guys who would swear that the gear has made them lose their hair prematurely. Not happened to me though, then I am still quite young and I have never done heavy or frequent cycles.

I think it's the fact that most of us who go to gyms tend to have an overall healthier lifestyle than those that don't which helps keeps us looking younger.

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PapaSmurf428

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posted January 02, 2001 11:43 AM

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my guess would be that it makes you age faster...yopur organs at least. AS put unnecessary starin on your heart, liver, etc. Thus aging them quicker than normal so by logic i would say that your whole body ages quicker. AS definately knock some time off your life.


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Green

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posted January 02, 2001 12:07 PM

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I don't agree that juice will take years off your life.


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posted January 02, 2001 04:11 PM

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According to the AMA, AS use promotes longevity.


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anabolic24/7

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posted January 02, 2001 04:25 PM

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80 or 81, does it really matter. I would say the crap we eat every day,processed foods, pestacides(sp)ect... does far more harm.IMO


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted January 02, 2001 04:37 PM

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new ad for sustenon: "may take a few years off your life, but will add life to your years!"


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Hoss

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posted January 02, 2001 05:21 PM

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Very good Hugh


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Recoome

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posted January 02, 2001 06:51 PM

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It enlarges your heart, and it strains your liver and kidneys, which means you will have more toxins and free radicals in your system than normal, which will make your body degrade faster. Plus, your testosterone sensitivity will be reduced, which will make you age/weaken even faster. Arnold had heart surgery because of his heavy drug use in his 20's, 30's and 40's.


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E2

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posted January 02, 2001 07:17 PM

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Actually the answer to this is yes, but 'age faster' is a strange term to use. To say that it will take years off your life, yup that's for sure, anything that increases your metabolism will take years off you life. I'm sure you've all read the studies where restricting caloric intake have shown to increase lifespan by about %25!!! Now this is a very restricted diet with some excersise.

The food we eat the drugs we take, all of this takes years off your life, but honestly i don't want to really live past 80. Perhaps i'll change my mind in the future, but right now i can't really see there being much of a life after 80.

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GHrelease

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posted January 02, 2001 07:33 PM

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***The hair loss, acne, and some of those types of side effects are due to the conversion of Test to D-test or DHT (dihydrotestosterone). I am not really exactly sure if AS use can prolong life except for the obvious fat burning, muscle building, proper protein synthesis, positive nitrogen balance, increased sex drive and all that other good shit we all love about the juice. I do know that since testosterone is naturally produced in the body any exogenous use could be potentially harmful if used continuously for long periods of time. I am wondering myself why the depression results from discontinuance of steroids especially like dbol (methandrostenolone). As far as I know dbol raises certain neurochemicals like dopamine and norepinephrine that's why you feel so good and confident why you are taking it. Other neurotransmitters like serotonin and GABA stay the same??? When you come off dbol, you don't really feel as confident because your dopamine levels drop possibly below normal...If anyone has any insight on this feel free to comment. Hope this helps a bit fellows-GHrelease


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Slopain

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posted January 02, 2001 07:40 PM

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Although right now the difference between 80-81 is minimal, something tells me when your hitting your 80th year, youll be begging for an extra one.

If AS takes off 3 or less years of my life, I think its a fair trade off. I could die any day, it would suck to be planning for the long term health thing and then get hit by a train or something.

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted January 02, 2001 07:42 PM

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My take on this is that it is sort-of a non-issue. A disproportunately large amount of the people who use AS are risk-takers. I know if I wasn't spending all my money on gear I'd be doing something else that is somewhat dangerous. Given this aspect to my personality, I suspect the chances of me living to a ripe old age are very low anyway.


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BigQuadz

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posted January 02, 2001 08:42 PM

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I think the majority of the users that don't go too heavy on dosage and don't cycle all year long won't see a difference.

The frequent exercise and clean foods should make up for it. Hell you may live longer.

I would rather die at 70 looking great, living great and feeling like I am 25 then die at 80 skinny as a turd or a fat ass.


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G-Man

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posted January 02, 2001 09:04 PM

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I like your response Hugh, I spend my money on AS. I could be going out and buying a CBR 750 or something!!!

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Rommel

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posted January 02, 2001 09:17 PM

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According to some...very few doctors say that doing a cycle or two of is good for your body (I just read this somewhere but have nothing to back it up). Deca improves your over-all immune systems. HGH is an anti-ageing drug. Plus you work your ass off in the gym. Put it this way, most people are overweight and "we" will live a hell of a lot longer than they will. So Juice on.

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DREXX

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posted January 02, 2001 09:48 PM

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I agree with E2. Anything that increases metabolism (AAS, T3, ECA, Food) will cause you to age faster...

A friend of mine as been using AAS for 7-8 years. He is a heavy user. Taking 1500mg/week of Test plus orals, insulin...

He had his wisdom teeth removed and the doc said his roots are as long as a 50 year old.

The thing is he is only 25yrs old. Makes you think???

We don't see many side effects off our cycles but we don't know everything that is going on inside of us


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Recoome

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posted January 02, 2001 09:52 PM

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You forgot to mention your prostate, too. Most people don't take finasteride in their cycles..


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waterboy

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posted January 02, 2001 10:31 PM

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i know this guy who has been on it for five years with out a stop. and he is 21 but looks like he is 30 . thats just one example... waterboy


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BarbarianHorde

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posted January 02, 2001 10:36 PM

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bump for an excellent topic...
good points all round

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posted January 02, 2001 10:37 PM

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Balance I think is the key. Any dynamic system (the human body, a thermostat, a juggler spinning a plate on the end of a stick, a mobile, a perpetual motion machine) once it loses its balance (homeostasis) then it soon topples and falls apart. All of these dynamic systems are balanced movement and change. My MD put me on testo and HGH a year ago for anti-aging and I definately think it helps. but I have not done any really big cycles (some D-bol, a 600mg/wk Testo enanthate cycle). If you push a system real hard to the left, you also have to apply pressure to the right. I like some of the things Bill Phillips says, such as taking D-bol in the morning so as to mimic natural testo release (which is higher in the AM). I think AS applied with some concern and wisdom will help. But I read an interview with a bodybuilder in MUSCLE MAG and he discussed how happy he was because he had been taking insulin illegally so long that it completely shut down his pancreas so that now he has a prescription for insulin - and now he can get insulin legally. To take AS to the point you completely ruin one of your organs - thats crazy. When this sterile diabetic bodybuilder dies we all should thank him for kindly removing his defective genetic material from the human race. Iterestingly, Japan has the longest life span of any of the industrialized countries. And people in Japan who were within close range of the atomic bombs dropped there, and suffered heavy radiation contamination have been determined to be some of the healthiest people and live even longer then the average Japanese. Maybe its true, what does not kill you makes you stronger. My dad was a POW on forced death marches in WWII. He is about 6'2" but when he got liberated he weighed under 100LBS. He had slept outside with no blankets and not even shoes when the temperature was under 0 degrees (this does not include windchill as they did not determine that then). He was marching 75 kilometers a day. Such extreme damges to his metabolism did not harm him much, as his health is extremely good today in his late 70's. part of that may be genetic - which is a factor we should take into account for such anecdotal stories as Arnold needing heart surgery. He had a leaky valve (which is extremely common) and he had a pig valve put in. he also smokes cigars pretty heavily. Anyone his age (50+) might have needed a new valve. If your dad had needed a pig valve from a mitral valve stenosis, nobody would have said "It was because of steroids". Everyone says Muhammad Ali got parkinsons because of taking blows to the head. I think he had a genetic predisposition for it. If not then why does nobody ask Michael J Fox how many blows to the head it took for him to get Parkinsons. For a cigar smoker, Arnold is in great shape. Look at Letterman - that cigar smoker had a quintuple bypass, and he ran 5 miles a day for years and his cholesterol has NEVER been over 170. You can't tell me steroids did that to him. So don't let one anectdotal story about Arnold sway you. but at the same time to imitate some of the crazy guys who are doing 1500 mg testo/wk, 450 mg Winny/wk, A bombs on top of it, 800 mg deca, lasix, 15 IU HGh/day stacked with insulin, ACA, T3, clenbuterol, and some lutylase on top of it - then you are asking to unbalance your body to the extent that you will seriously screw up your system. And once it loses its balance, it may never recover it again. I doubt Arnold did the freaky big cycles one hears of today.


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Green

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posted January 02, 2001 11:04 PM

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So are you telling me that since I have a slow metabolism I'll live longer than my friend that has a very fast metabolism? Sounds a bit shady to me. Later, Green


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posted January 02, 2001 11:59 PM

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I don't see how having a fast metabolsim will make you age faster...it seems to that it would be the opposite...


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posted January 03, 2001 01:09 AM

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g-man: you would die quicker only out of shame of not getting a yamaha r6! lol

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