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 Precycle Pic and question deca, primo, or winny
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
http://www.photoloft.com/view/Image.asp?s=xpag&u=551237&a=436956&i=4335328 Im on the left. Im currently 5'9 158lbs Im going to be doing a cycle in about 3 weeks and have a few questions. I am getting 16 brazilian sustanon. So 500mg per week for 8 weeks and I am debating on either deca, primo or winny with that. I was going to get 12 deca 200mg and use 400mg for weeks 3-8. Or get primo or winny. I am looking for some more mass and try to stay around 170lbs. Thanks     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 692 |
You will surpass 170lbs with just the sustanon alone... Maybe try just the sustanon. You can gain alot if your diet is right. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
I want to be able to hold the weight though. If I do the sus alone Im sure I will gain alot of weight but I doubt I will keep alot. so I was thinking of throwing the the primo or deca to help solidfy the gains. Or do you think Im better of on a deca or primo only cycle and gain mass rather than water. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 238 |
Sust/Deca in my opinion.You have a good frame,but can use some more muscle mass,thickness. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 294 |
I AGREE WITH HARMONIC, IF YOU ARE ONLY LOOKING TO PUT ON 12 POUNDS YOU COULD DO THAT WITH SUST ALONE. I WOULD GET SOME DECA OR EQ AND STACK THAT WITH THE SUST AND WITH THE RIGHT DIET AND TRAINING YOU SHOULD SEE SOME REALLY NICE GAINS. I WOULD GO WITH 300-400MG OF DECA A WEEK FOR A MIN OF 8 WEEKS.YOU COULD TRY THIS CYCLE WEEK******SUST*****DECA***** M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
tru.. HOw about I will just do that cycle u suggested there but with 300mg deca. and then I need clomid at the end of cycle. You guys like deca better than primo? for my build.. I am not into being real big I just want to put on like you said about 15lbs. thanks | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 294 |
I THINK PRIMO IS MORE FOR CUTING AND DECA IS FOR BULKING BUT IT CAN STILL BE USED IN A CUTTING CYCLE WITH GOOD RESULTS. I WOULD CHOOSE DECA BECAUSE IT WILL PUT ON A LITTLE MORE MASS AND ALSO PRIMO IS VERY EXPENSIVE. GOOD LUCK BRO M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
ok Ill go with the deca than. I shouldnt get deca dick with the sus right. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 294 |
I DON'T THINK IT IS POSSABLE TO GET "DECA DICK" WHEN USING IT WITH SOME FORM OF TEST LIKE SUST. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CYCLE, YOU HAVE A NICE FRAME AND SHOULD BE PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS. M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
thanks m18.. Ill post the after cycle pics in a few months. sus alone will be hard to maintain the weight right? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 294 |
I AM NOT SURE ABOUT SUST ALONE. I REMEMBER THERE WAS A POST A WHILE BACK ABOUT A GUY WHO DID A SUST ALONE CYCLE AND HAD GOOD RESULTS BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS, I'LL TRY AND FIND IT, IT WAS A VERY GOOD POST. BUMP FOR ANY OTHER OPINIONS. M18 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 919 |
With proper post cycle planning(diet, traing, ancillary drugs) sust gains can be very easily maintained. If you have a solid diet while your on then the gains will be quite solid. With any AS there is potential to loose muscle mass when the drug is discontinued. The reason gains from drugs such as EQ, winny, and primo appear to be permanent is because they don't cause the body to retain water. Testosterone on the other hand will cause edema. The "gains" lost following a test cycle are water weight. If you get the HPTA up and running post cycle and provide the body with proper nourishment then the muscle mass will be maintained. Sust alone will get you your 12 pounds, and maintainable pounds at that. I would say think bigger though. The cycle M18 posted looks very solid. You will, if you do all things right, get more than your 170 mark. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 571 |
Why don't u try some lifting before u use steriods. You look like u have never touched a weight in your life. ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 5 |
Those fish look like the Fucking monsters from Alien. Did you catch them after they burst out of someone's tummy? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
good one blonde myth. I have been weight training for over 7 years. I would like to see your pics. I have never touched the juice and I am pretty damn stong for my size.. I can bench 225 8 times no problems. that is good at my weight.. so quit the flamin. Your the first one I will send my after pics to. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 220 |
goodluck contender...you will be fine. Looks like you have a naturally fast metablosim...like me...since your lean, you'll be surprised with how little fat/water weight you'll put on...even on test. Goodluck. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
palm beacher here contender!! what's up! should look pretty good after that cycle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 617 |
Stack the sust with 400mg. deca for 8 weeks. Clomid at least post cycle. Should be perfect for thickness and mass. ghans | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
thanks guys.> Im gonna give it a shot.. possiby the sus only.. Im not sure yet.. but the semster is starting soon.. so once I settle back into school I will know for sure.. I am not looking to get huge.. I just want alittle more thickness. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 378 |
HEY BRO YOU LOOK GOOD MAN , DONT LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE SAY MAN YOU SHOULD REACT GOOD IF YOU KEEP A GOOD DIET.. WELL GOOD LUCK BRO ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
hey thanx wild. Ill keep you updated.. I start school next week, ,so that is when my diet gets real good. Im going to start pounding in the protien and calories. Like I said I just want about 10-15 lbs. I actually weighed myself today at the food store and I was 161.. so 175 is my goal. Ill keep you updated. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5886 |
It is important to remember to ingest around 3500 calories and 300g or protein per day to get the most out of gear. You must also train very aggressively in order to promote muscle growth. With that said, you should consider your mid-term exams, your term papers and your finals into your schedule since you will not eat, sleep or train very well while studying for your exams and writing your papers (unless you are very, very organized). I would opt for a cycle like this. You do not need more Sust since it will be a waste if you stack it with the Clomid. If you want to do more Sust then stay with 500 for 8 weeks and nothing else. You should have more than enough mass if you do everything right. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
thanx 2thick.. I think I am going to go ahead and get 500mg sus for 8 weeks.. since I am getting a good price. .and my deca price is pretty sky high. Ill keep you posted. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
hey contender you look good don't listen to those people. i 've done sust alone and i gained a lot but it was a lot of water and fat aslo.So i think you'd better stack. with primo if you're concerned about hairloss, since you can use proscar. if hair is not an issue go with deca and sus but don't overdo it. do it like 2thick said.later | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 597 |
Dude , dont listen to the blond myth. I dont know what he is talkin about bro. You got a very good frame. I would say do the sust deca with a very clean diet with low carbs and high protein. I would maintane the ripped look while i replace fat with muscle. I wouldn't look at the scale on that cycle either...12 lbs. is 12 lbs. so what?!Just look in the mirror to gauge your progress and you'll come out lookin great. Just remember bro, protien is the key. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
I was in the same boat as you are. I was 153 before I started juicin, defined but not much mass. I did a sus only cycle a shot up to 175, then when it was all over I went down to 165. You could put almost anything with sus. Sus, deca, and dbol is good also. Remember to EAT BIG. I ate 5000-6000cal/day. Whatever you choose.....enjoy, you'll love it. The_Blond_Myth that was messed up you don't have to go around saying shit like that. You've been around here for awhile to know not to flame people that are asking a legit question. [This message has been edited by roadruler (edited January 01, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 107 |
Contender you look good bro but you need to think bigger like one of the bros said you would look even better at 195 if you train and eat right ignore some peoples comments there just rude. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
thanks guys, Im gonna go ahead and do an 8 week cycle of sus and focus on my diet, rest, and training. Ill see how it goes. thanks again | ||
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Novice
Posts: 1 |
@contender: I dont want to insult you, but surely you dont have reached your genetic limits. Perhaps you shouldnt take the easy way. Remember once you haved made a cycle, you wont be able to build mass so easily like before you were natural. your choice.. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
Sounds like a lot of mgs. My first cycle consisted of 200mg of deca for 6 weeks. After the second week I started getting Deca dick so I took some 250mg of Sus that week and 250 the next week to counteract it. That was it! I gained 12lbs and kept 10. It was pretty light cycle considering what others suggested me to do. Just an FYI. Maybe you could modify my cycle to give you the extra 5lbs you want. Just an FYI | ||
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Novice
Posts: 3 |
This is going to completely come off as a flame, but i think's it's called for... I do not claim to know it all, but I was in your position and put on nearly 50 pounds before I juiced. I did that in 9 months. DELAY gratification, eat, sleep, train a body once a week (try legs too, I know it's a novel idea). You guys should NOT be stroking this guy! He could gain that weight naturally in a couple months time, easily! Why don't you save your money and gear, EAT some BEEF and SQUAT. I notice your pic does not show your legs and I bet they are quite small. If you don't squat and don't deadlift AND you start I bet with only 4000 cal (200g protein) you could put the weight on in 2 months, I challenge you to try it. AND you won't look like a fucking light bulb either. NOW, good luck. [This message has been edited by rugger (edited January 02, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 188 |
GOOD LUCK... Tell the Blonde Myth top stay exactly what he is...a MYTH. He isn't shit and never will be shit. I too am looking at my first cycle. I am 212lbs and 8% bodyfat. Again GOOD LUCK |
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posted December 31, 2000 06:42 PM