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 Here it is.....Hardcore's Pre-contest cycle!!!
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 466 |
Ok, guys i need to get your opinions on this. Here is what i have planned: ....Aratest....TtokkyoDeca.....IP Winny OK----now, i will also be adding clenbuterol, and cynomel into this. The clenbuterol i am still not too sure on how to do it. Its the most confusing thing for me. The cynomel, i will start the last 6 weeks, and start with 25mcg every 3-4 days, then up my dose by one pill every 3-4 days. When i get up to 100mcg a day. Then i will pyramid back down. Well, thanks guys, and i appreciate anybodys comments. I hope to be placing first this time in the Junior Middleweight class. Thanks! ------------------     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Oh, i know this may seem like a lot of test for a pre-contest cycle, but for me its easy to shed the water and fat off. With cardio 2 times a day, some days once, i should be doing well. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 918 |
I really like the looks of this bro. Unless you are dead set on winning a pro card this time around I would leave the halo out. I think it would be too harsh. The winny for 12 weeks is going to be a heavy work load let alone a very toxic androgen. It looks good the way it is. I am planning a very similar one now but the winny will be for 8 weeks and I will drop the test two weeks out as to get rid of the water retention. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 588 |
If the winny is oral why not take it 50ed insted of 100mg eod? I like the test and deca with winny. It looks like it will work well as long as you can shed the water in the end. I am using test and deca now to shed some flab and my strength hasn't dropped nearly as much as it normally does. It is still holding out even while I'm on DNP and that is a damn near miracle. Good luck. I hope dieting isn't as difficult for you as it is for me. giantset ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 61 |
flip flop the clen and ephedrine with caffeine every 2 weeks. add fina to the stack and drop the deca the last 5 days add 50mgs of anadrol to fill back out if you are also going to use a diuretic. are you experienced with insulin yet? and dnp for 1 week every 5th week of your cycle will help burn more calories.this will also give your body a break from t3 and insulin because you dont need them with it. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2252 |
Nice cycle. How farout from the show will you be when the cycle is over? I would say *maybe* even lower the winny dosage for the first 6 weeks, or forget it altogether (first 6 weeks). For the second 6 weeks - that's a lot of winny while you are using test. (This is why I asked how close you were to the contest.) If you are interested in using halo....consider lowering your winny dosage the second 6 weeks, and only using halo for the 4 weeks leading up to the show. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Ok Matt, here is my contest schedule. I am actually entering back to back contests. And i mean, they are 2 weeks apart from each other! My first one is on March 17th. So, when i finish taking clomid a week from Sunday, i will start this cycle up. That will mean, i will have exactly 10 weeks until the first contest and 12 till the 2nd. Why would you lower the dosage of winny, or even not take it the first 6 weeks? And, you said also, that the last 6 weeks is a lot of winny to be using with test. Explain more if you could please.....i am sure you have a good reason for it. I have no idea. And last but not least, would you just say screw the halo, and keep taking the winny, or do like you said and lower the winny dosage and take the halo the last 4 weeks? Thanks. Oh, on the Cynomel, is that the best way to take it? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 203 |
this guy doesn't mess around huh? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 2011 |
Winny Ed if your going to do it - like Giant said. If deca works for you then cool, but I got to think EQ would be a tad better pre-cycle. You should also "flip flop" the clen and E/C/A - got a chuckle out of that one Simon. The T3, ramp it up quicker, so you have more time to come back down. And you might even try to go above 100mcg. Halo - not unless your gong to make some cash off this show or looking to get sponcered. What is your plan to come in shreaded? Are these NPC shows? Also, back to back shows can be fun, but damn hard. Are the same district judges gong to be at both? ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1180 |
I to like equipose over winny. My cutting cycle had the oil compounds out 4 weeks before to remove water. Replaced with propinate. Winny I think stenox for a short time can't be beat. Helps make ya hard as a rock and give ya increased strength. Can m ake ya agressive but relaize that before going in and you'll be fine. Keep under 10 2.5 tabs per day and cycle up to allow body to adopt. With two shows it will be hard to hold prime condition so I am sure you have a show you will target to look 100% and one to look 98%. I tried this but could not do second show as I over did prep for first show (2nd place). Went through sodium depletion Sunday before Hope it helps and its just my 2 cents | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
Hardcore - Hi. I had a question about your cycle. It looks intense, but I was just wondering why you need such high doses for a pre-contest cycle? Will you be cutting or bulking or both? I thought that the point of cutting cycles was just to preserve the LBM (not to build new muscle), so I thought lower doses should be ok. Is this wrong? I don't compete, so I'm pretty much in the dark about pre-contest preparation, but I'm planning on doing a cutting cycle soon. I've done heavy bulking cycles before. I was going to use a lot less gear, but looking at your cycle, I'm having 2nd thoughts. Just curious what you think. Thanks. good luck in your shows. [This message has been edited by lpw (edited January 01, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Giantset, dieting is a pain in the ass for me for the first week, but after that i get used to it. And guys, i keep hearing all this about DNP, and so on. Honestly, i dont really know anything about it. Can somebody enlighten me? Warlobo.....the reason im using deca instead of EQ, is because i just got off my bulking cycle with EQ, and honestly, it didnt do much for me. At least I dont think it did. I have never used deca, and was just going to give it a try. Plus, i dont have any EQ, I only have Ttokkyo Deca! When you say "flip-flop" the clen & ECA, you mean clen for 2 weeks, then ECA for 2 weeks and so on? My plan for coming in shredded........well, i have the diet i had last contest, but i wanted to revise it a bit. If you have any pointers, throw them my way. I know to keep protein high throughout, sodium depletion the week before, and so on. I have lasix on hand for the last couple of days. These are both NPC shows, and back to back is probably gonna be hard as hell i know. So any more info you have would be great. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
LPW, honestly the reason behind such high doses of test, is because i just came off my bulking cycle and i started at a gram. I guess i am figuring that even though this is a precontest cycle, that i can also do the same dosages and get results. Maybe i should think about lowering them a bit, but i dunno. Im afraid that since i have slipped into the dark "gram" side, that i cannot go back. WARLOBO? What do you think? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
Hardcore, thanks for the reply. When you say "do the same dosages and get results", I guess you mean you're looking to make gains and cut at the same time? If you're just looking to maintain size while getting lean, I would think that lower doses would probably be ok. I also just finished a cycle with test in the g/wk range, so I'm sort of in the same boat. good luck. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Yeah LPW, i guess you are right. I do want to maybe add a little mass while dieting, maybe about 5 solid pounds i guess. I may still lower the dose to around 800mg for the entire cycle, but im not sure. I will have to think about it for the next week. Hopefully deca will work for me better than EQ did too.  ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Bump for Warlobo. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Warlobo, you out there? ------------------ |
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posted December 30, 2000 06:20 PM