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StrongForLife

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posted December 30, 2000 02:29 AM

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Does anyone know the correct length of time to continue insulin injections? The hGH cycles are 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. I am not sure if there is a need to cycle off the insulin in between hGH cycles, for reasons OTHER than storing fat without the hGH, because this has not been a problem so far.

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StrongForLife

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posted December 30, 2000 03:04 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by StrongForLife:
Does anyone know the correct length of time to continue insulin injections? The hGH cycles are 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. I am not sure if there is a need to cycle off the insulin in between hGH cycles, for reasons OTHER than storing fat without the hGH, because this has not been a problem so far.



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sbaset

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posted December 30, 2000 04:10 AM

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who told you to use HGH at 4weeks on/4 weeks off. That is not the way to use it. You should use it straight for at least 8-10 weeks...or until you run out of money. Some guys will use it 5 days on, 2 days off...but thats about it. It would be totally useless to run the cycle the way your are proposing. As far is the slin is concerned, I'm not very knowledgable about that subject. There are ALOT of bros that use it...sure someone will answer you. All I know is to do your research BEFORE using slin. Goodluck


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conan69

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posted December 30, 2000 08:19 AM

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GH 4 weeks on/off is useless as noted above
8 weeks is minimum

about the slin 6 weeks on taking it on training days only is prefered

then use the same amount of time off the slin as you were on

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StrongForLife

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posted December 31, 2000 05:19 AM

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The reason for 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off:

I use to do 8-10 weeks, or as long I could possibly afford to stay on when I was doing a show. In the off season, I get the best gains on the first 3 weeks, then I seem to maintain after that. After I stop, no losses in the 4 weeks off anyway (the beauty of hGH), then I get another growth spurt on the next cycle. If money was no issue, I would stay on, believe me.

Anyway, I am more concerned about info for doing the insulin right, I have less experience with it. I used to do the growth without it, when insulin use first became popular, because I am hypoglycemic. It became inevitable though, there is definitely a big difference with it! I know enough about physiology to keep myself safe, alive and well, but I was hoping someone had some advanced knowledge on trigger mechanisms, suppression, etc, from staying on too long without a break.


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conan69

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posted December 31, 2000 05:32 AM

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Just goes to show you everyone is different cause most people report most of there GH growth post week 4

anyway

Insulin should be used no more than 6 weeks to be absolutely safe (witht the same amound of time off if you plan to cycle it)

you can start light to find which is right dose for you say 6 iu post workout
work your way up to 10iu post workout
(some go higher but i wouldnt in your case)
you can also add 10 iu when you wake up too

when you get advanced
2 types of insulin
Humalog (script) faster acting in system like 2 hours..alot easier to control

humulin-r (no script) slower acting stays in system for like 4 hours

Rule of thumb at least 10g of carbs with high glycemic value per IU of slin

always keep extra snacks on hand in case you start showing signs of hypo (you will know)

also eat a lot of protein after your shots
but NO fat, cause it will go right to your fat stores

hope this helps
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StrongForLife

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posted December 31, 2000 05:47 AM

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Thanks, that is a great help. I am up to 10iu already, three times a day (a real pain in the balls). I take in more than 10 grams of carbs per IU with the post workout meal, and of course protein is always high.

I will re-schedule this out to try to accomodate the time needed off the insulin, thanks again.


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bgriff

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posted December 31, 2000 11:25 AM

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Bump for Conan He is exactaly right!!!

And I did notice my gaind from gh after week 4 but that was probabaly cuz I ended the gear at that piont!! hehehe


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