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  Tapering down - Who believes in it and who doesn't?

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Goodfella4life

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posted December 29, 2000 02:27 PM

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Who believes in tapering down dosages at the end of a cycle and who doesn't, and for what reasons?


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Hacker

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posted December 29, 2000 02:31 PM

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I'm starting to believe that anything under a gram/week is unnecessary to taper.

Why? Because with the proper use of clomid and other ancillary drugs you can avoid a crash.


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TNH

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posted December 29, 2000 02:33 PM

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I agree with Hacker on that. A gram and up, then you taper a bit.


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conan69

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posted December 29, 2000 02:39 PM

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People used to taper to avoid crashes but with the extensive use of such things as clomid, Hcg, proviron and others this is not neccessary

do to your injection times and the half lifes of the particular AS it will self taper to the point where you can do the rest with the fore mentioned drugs

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Andy13

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posted December 29, 2000 02:43 PM

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No taper. Period.

Why taper with just gram and above? The steroids have a half life. So if you injected 1g of T-enanthate (half life around 5 days), after 15 days you will still (in theory) have 125mg "in your system." It seems to me that esterified steroids taper themselves.

Also, it's important to note that even 100mg of test/week is still quite inhibitory to your natural T. If the goal is to recover as soon as possible, I dont recomend tapering for the same reason why guys suggest switching to prop towards the end of the cycle. That is, in order to make a speedy recovery, you want the drug to be "out of your system" asap so you can begin natural T production once again.

Andy


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Andy13

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posted December 29, 2000 02:45 PM

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Damn, Conan, looks like you beat me to it again. We must have been typing at the same time.

Andy


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DrZaius

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posted December 29, 2000 04:05 PM

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I used to taper, but after further research I never will again.


Peace
DrZ


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rohadawg

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posted December 29, 2000 04:12 PM

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Dr. Zaius is on the money!!
If you do your research you will
find out tapering is just (gymrat lingo).

NOT NECESSARY


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Beezers

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posted December 29, 2000 04:54 PM

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In my opinion you are wasting weeks of prime growth by either pyramiding or tapering. The whole point of AS is to induce supra-physiological levels of highly anabolic substances...so get them to those supra-physiological levels and keep them there for the whole time so they can do what they do best. With proper post cycle planning crashing should never occur.

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rohadawg

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posted December 29, 2000 04:58 PM

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"crashing" is a mental thing.
if you're strong in the mind from
the beginning you'll be fine.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 29, 2000 09:27 PM

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I too, do not feel the need to taper any substance. The typical view of tapering is flawed. It is far better to be on a substance at the peak level for the whole length of the cycle rather than coming up and down on minimal amounts which in turn equals less growth. Whatever level of natural test you had during your cycle you can use the clomid, hcg, and other medicines. That can be used to restore hormone levels, reduce or eradicate aromatization and some of the other sides associated with being on.

Just my opinion though

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Holy souldier

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posted December 29, 2000 11:03 PM

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don't come off,use a bridge.


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