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ChicKnBiG

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posted December 29, 2000 01:54 PM

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what do you guys know about the ester
in propinate being chemically comarable to
the venom in a bee sting...this being the reason for most of the pain when injected.


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Code-Code

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posted December 29, 2000 02:45 PM

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Huh, I doubt it.
I'm highly allergic to bee stings and I use prop on nearly every cycle.

But interested to know if it's similar.


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ion

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posted December 29, 2000 07:35 PM

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There was hype about bee venom being used to treat
arthritis.


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the truth

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posted December 29, 2000 08:44 PM

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Yes, it's true. Bee venom and propionic acid are both very short-chain fatty acids.


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Primo57

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posted December 29, 2000 09:40 PM

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True, both compounds stimulate the release of antibodies..which as you know can lead to
inflammation, irritation, and redness.


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bouncer

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posted December 30, 2000 05:45 AM

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If the prop in sustanon cause's all the pain and swelling, why then when I do Testoviron Depot which has 50mg prop per shot as opposed to 30mg in sust. I don't get any pain ?. I'm currently using 1g sust in two 500mg shot twice per week and I'm crippled.
I don't thinks it's the prop. 2Think posted a reply to a post the other day which was similar to this one, in it he said it was the alcohol in the sust that cause's the pain !.
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Bouncer

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Primo57

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posted December 30, 2000 12:00 PM

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Interesting, although I experience irritation with both compounds, but never with cyp, enanth, or hep. Maybe some people do not have the same cellular response to prop or it could be like 2Thick said, you've got me curious.


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