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d1734

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posted December 29, 2000 01:49 PM

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i couldn't find 70% ethanol 30% water alchol. the one i got has 70% ethyl alcohol (same thing??), 5% acetone, 1% methyl isobutyl ketone, bitrex and purified water. it says it will cause severe gastric disturbances if consumed. can i use it anyway? i am mixing winny so propylene glycol won't even work i found out. i don't have access to bicardi, everclear or any of that. anyway will this work? if not is there anywhere i can get 70% ethanol, 30% water alcohol? please help i wanna start this shit today and get rid of my anadrol bloat.

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posted December 29, 2000 01:59 PM

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ID HOLD ON, I DONT THINK YOU WANT ACETONE IN THAT.


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posted December 29, 2000 02:04 PM

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DO NOT DRINK OR INJECT ACETONE!! Injecting it could KILL you!

Ethanol = Ethyl Alcohol


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Andy13

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posted December 29, 2000 02:17 PM

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What are you trying to do? Take the winny orally? propylene glycol WILL work just fine


Acetone is not nearly as toxic as some other organic solvents. Infact, acetone is a by-product of ketosis. Since acetone cannot be used for metabolic energy it is excreted in urine and breath. The acetone is what makes your breath smell. So no, it is not a problem here.

BTW: the keto strips turn purple as a result of the acetone.

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d1734

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posted December 29, 2000 02:19 PM

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andy: is this stuff safe to drink though with all the ingredients in there? i will be consuming 1ml 4 times a day.

shit, well that's no good. what can i do now though? everclear, bicardi, and rubbing alcohol are my only options. i'd have to get some help to get everclear or bicardi. i've been checking the internet for the 70% ethanol, 30% water stuff but i can't find any.

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posted December 29, 2000 02:19 PM

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You are correct to a point, Andy, but the acetone you're referring to is in trace amounts. The volumes d1734 is referring to would be HIGHLY toxic. You make it sound like it's not a bad thing to do, and if so, you are extremely wrong.


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posted December 29, 2000 02:24 PM

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Unless you want to end up in the hospital and possibly go blind, don't use rubbing alcohol! It's not the same as ethanol/ethyl alcohol. Rubbing alcohol contains isopropyl alcohol -- a completely different alcohol.


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d1734

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posted December 29, 2000 02:27 PM

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gymrat: that depends, the one i have is called rubbing alcohol despite it's ingredients. so your saying even 1ml every 4 hours of this will be too toxic to use?


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no way man. the government purposes poisons laboratory ethanol. I would never drink that shit. why not just get a high proof alcohol? like bicardi 151?

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Yes. DO NOT use rubbing alcohol. Are you going to take it orally? Why not PG? How about just plain old oil?

I cannot say whether the other ingredients will be harmful or not. But for sure, the acetone, if it is 5% will not bother you.

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posted December 29, 2000 02:30 PM

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Rubbing alcohol is toxic in any amount -- it cannot be made non-toxic. DON'T USE IT!


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posted December 29, 2000 02:32 PM

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But for sure, the acetone, if it is 5% will not bother you.

This advice could easily put someone in the hospital and have their stomach pumped. If they were to inject it, they might as well call a mortician.

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since we don't even know what the other ingredients do, i'll play it safe and NOT use this. what do u suggest i do now? either go for the bicardi/everclear or just try mixing it really well in water each time creating a suspension? i will be taking it through an 18g needle (orally, not injection).

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posted December 29, 2000 04:37 PM

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Go ahead and use some very clean distilled water. Put it an airtight container that you can shake very well each time you use it. Your dosages then should be fairly consistent.


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d1734

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posted December 29, 2000 07:26 PM

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i just mixed it. emptied out a large supplement bottle with a screw top and used that. there is a huge amount of foam at the top, hard to tell if its like all foam or not. when i draw it into the syringe it is a murky color and some foam is on the needle. is this going to be terribly uneven or what? how should i go about this, i'd like as even of doses as possible but if i gotta estimate occasionally i guess i could live with that. anyone wanna help me out with this?


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posted December 29, 2000 07:37 PM

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just make sure you shake it up real good every time you draw some out so that it's mixed evenly. That powder likes to settle fast so you need to draw it up quickly.

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posted December 29, 2000 07:55 PM

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yea i shake it for like a full minute vigorously and instantly take it. if anyone else has mixed winny in water and wants to tell me if this is normal let me know. i used 250 ML so it's not like it is really concentrated. only 20 mg/ml


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ixtapalover

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Well i'm new in this and i was just wondering why do you have to Mix Winny ,isn't Winny a liquid....thanks for your help,...and sorry if my question doesn't make sense....


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posted December 30, 2000 01:15 AM

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I have always heard to use distilled water when mixinf powdered whinny!!!

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It does not need to be distilled water. How sterile the mixture is is a concern but not a HUGE deal since you are taking it orally.

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