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you might be a democrat if...

diasgree, backwards and stupid is liberal speak for blue collar white rural folks like myself.
yuppie, hippie, limo liberal, welfare queen, etc is used by the right to denote libs.

Funny. If I were to call someone backwards and stupid, it's because what I think they're saying is backwards and stupid. It has no foundation in employment or neighborhood type. If I thought a 'yuppie' lib was saying something backwards and stupid, I'd say so too, and I have.

Even if some libs do use those terms to mean what you said (I know they do, I'm not delusional), what's your point? Do the names really matter that much? What a stupid (no blue collar...lol) distinction for one to make.

You're saying it's more ok for one party to dismiss and name call someone that doesn't share their views because their names are in your opinion less offensive? Ooook. :rolleyes:

How ridiculous that adults can't have a discussion without name-calling, no matter the degree of it.
 
Funny. If I were to call someone backwards and stupid, it's because what I think they're saying is backwards and stupid. It has no foundation in employment or neighborhood type. If I thought a 'yuppie' lib was saying something backwards and stupid, I'd say so too, and I have.

Even if some libs do use those terms to mean what you said (I know they do, I'm not delusional), what's your point? Do the names really matter that much? What a stupid (no blue collar...lol) distinction for one to make.

You're saying it's more ok for one party to dismiss and name call someone that doesn't share their views because their names are in your opinion less offensive? Ooook. :rolleyes:

How ridiculous that adults can't have a discussion without name-calling, no matter the degree of it.

the point i was trying to make is that stupid and backwards are terms typically applied to white blue collar folks via left leaning folks, and thus point 21 is a very relevant statement.
 
Let's be fair though -- it is a good term.

Liberals who cannot get off Huffington Post talking points = Libtards

Conservatives who cannot get off American Family Association talking points = Jebus Freaks

Both are fitting terms IMO.

I'll agree with that.
 
lmao...now find the opposite

1: You’re irate over the president taking so many vacation days on the taxpayer’s dime (61 thus far), but you thought George W. Bush earned every minute of his leisure time (196 days at the same point in his presidency).

2: You’re happy with your 40 hour work week, paid vacations and company-provided healthcare, but you’re strongly anti-union, because those commies haven’t done anything for you lately.

3: You strongly support the First Amendment and its guarantee of religious freedom to all, but you don’t think Muslims have a right to build an Islamic Community Center in Manhattan.

4: You believe Ronald Reagan was a devout Christian, even though he hated going to church, but any president who spends twenty years going to the same Trinity United Church in Chicago must be a Muslim.

5: You believe when a Republican governor creates a healthcare package with an individual mandate for everyone in his state, that’s a good idea. But when a Democratic president does it, suddenly it’s unconstitutional.

6: You’re so enthused about demonstrating your Second Amendment rights, you can think of no finer place to brandish your pistol in public than at a presidential rally.

7: You believe Bill Clinton was responsible for Osama bin Laden’s escape ten years ago, but thankfully George W. Bush caught up with him and killed him in Pakistan.

8: You believe in putting American jobs first, except when president Obama rescued 1.5 million GM and Chrysler autoworkers, because that was socialism.

9: It angers you that you can’t communicate with the Mexican busboy at your local Olive Garden, but when you took a vacation to San Francisco’s Chinatown, you thought it’s quaint that so many Chinese-Americans are holding fast to their traditional language. Because that’s America!

10: You deny that the lunatic who tried to murder Gaby Giffords was a conservative, even though he targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights, Democratic Congresswoman.

11: You thought it was perfectly normal that every president in history had an untethered right to raise the debt ceiling when warranted, but when Obama asked the GOP held congress to do it, you thought it only natural that it be tied to cutting Social Security and Medicare.

12: When the new 112th Congress was sworn in, you swooned as they promised to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But when they pivoted, and went after NPR, Planned Parenthood and gay rights, you cheered.

13: You accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950.

14: You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.

15: You believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… unless they’re married to Tea Party-backed presidential candidates from Minnesota.

16: You strongly defend individual freedom, but that freedom doesn’t include a woman’s right to decide her own healthcare needs.

17: You believe corporations are people too, and are deserving of the same rights as the rest of us. Just not the same obligations to pay personal income tax free of corporate loopholes, or penalties for massive criminal behavior and tax evasion. In these matters, corporations are deserving of special rights.

18: And since corporations are now people too, you must believe in their right to a driver’s license, the right to marry, to adopt children, etc. These rights shall not be denied to Exxon, Halliburton and BP (but still immune from the right of the People to try, convict and sentence to death any corporation that conspires to commit a felony… because at that point, they’re suddenly not people again.)

19: You still believe Climate Change is a myth, and the recent record highs, lows, floods and droughts around the world coinciding with climate scientist’s predictions are all an amazing coincidence. Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!

20: You believe when George W. Bush took the national debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion, it was necessary for him to do so to keep America safe. But when Barack Obama added to it by trying to rescue the country from a second Great Depression, he was deliberately trying to destroy America!

21: You believe America is a God fearing country, and that the Almighty protects those who believe just as you do. But it’s never crossed your mind that the majority of tornados, hurricanes and floods all occur in the Bible Belt.

22: You believe that no matter who’s in the White House, the office, if not the man himself is deserving of your respect. The only exceptions to this rule, are if his middle name sounds Muslim, and if he’s not at least as white as that black guy who works down in the mailroom at the office.
 
Wow. There are more for Bino's list then DBs.

It's always interesting when there's a left vs a right argument rather then the corporatism.
 
1: You’re irate over the president taking so many vacation days on the taxpayer’s dime (61 thus far), but you thought George W. Bush earned every minute of his leisure time (196 days at the same point in his presidency).

2: You’re happy with your 40 hour work week, paid vacations and company-provided healthcare, but you’re strongly anti-union, because those commies haven’t done anything for you lately.

3: You strongly support the First Amendment and its guarantee of religious freedom to all, but you don’t think Muslims have a right to build an Islamic Community Center in Manhattan.

4: You believe Ronald Reagan was a devout Christian, even though he hated going to church, but any president who spends twenty years going to the same Trinity United Church in Chicago must be a Muslim.

5: You believe when a Republican governor creates a healthcare package with an individual mandate for everyone in his state, that’s a good idea. But when a Democratic president does it, suddenly it’s unconstitutional.

6: You’re so enthused about demonstrating your Second Amendment rights, you can think of no finer place to brandish your pistol in public than at a presidential rally.

7: You believe Bill Clinton was responsible for Osama bin Laden’s escape ten years ago, but thankfully George W. Bush caught up with him and killed him in Pakistan.

8: You believe in putting American jobs first, except when president Obama rescued 1.5 million GM and Chrysler autoworkers, because that was socialism.

9: It angers you that you can’t communicate with the Mexican busboy at your local Olive Garden, but when you took a vacation to San Francisco’s Chinatown, you thought it’s quaint that so many Chinese-Americans are holding fast to their traditional language. Because that’s America!

10: You deny that the lunatic who tried to murder Gaby Giffords was a conservative, even though he targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights, Democratic Congresswoman.

11: You thought it was perfectly normal that every president in history had an untethered right to raise the debt ceiling when warranted, but when Obama asked the GOP held congress to do it, you thought it only natural that it be tied to cutting Social Security and Medicare.

12: When the new 112th Congress was sworn in, you swooned as they promised to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But when they pivoted, and went after NPR, Planned Parenthood and gay rights, you cheered.

13: You accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950.

14: You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.

15: You believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… unless they’re married to Tea Party-backed presidential candidates from Minnesota.

16: You strongly defend individual freedom, but that freedom doesn’t include a woman’s right to decide her own healthcare needs.

17: You believe corporations are people too, and are deserving of the same rights as the rest of us. Just not the same obligations to pay personal income tax free of corporate loopholes, or penalties for massive criminal behavior and tax evasion. In these matters, corporations are deserving of special rights.

18: And since corporations are now people too, you must believe in their right to a driver’s license, the right to marry, to adopt children, etc. These rights shall not be denied to Exxon, Halliburton and BP (but still immune from the right of the People to try, convict and sentence to death any corporation that conspires to commit a felony… because at that point, they’re suddenly not people again.)

19: You still believe Climate Change is a myth, and the recent record highs, lows, floods and droughts around the world coinciding with climate scientist’s predictions are all an amazing coincidence. Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!

20: You believe when George W. Bush took the national debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion, it was necessary for him to do so to keep America safe. But when Barack Obama added to it by trying to rescue the country from a second Great Depression, he was deliberately trying to destroy America!

21: You believe America is a God fearing country, and that the Almighty protects those who believe just as you do. But it’s never crossed your mind that the majority of tornados, hurricanes and floods all occur in the Bible Belt.

22: You believe that no matter who’s in the White House, the office, if not the man himself is deserving of your respect. The only exceptions to this rule, are if his middle name sounds Muslim, and if he’s not at least as white as that black guy who works down in the mailroom at the office.

That's a noble effort!

But the content is a complete miss. For example:

"13: You accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950."

No one I know is saying taxes are at the "highest point ever". US taxes are at a globally uncompetitive rate. Let me help you with an example: I used to sell disposable esophogeal stethoscopes (medical device) for well over $7 each. Today, I'm thrilled if I can get $3.25. Why? They've become a global product and that globalization has imploded the price. Now I could set my price to $5.00 tomorrow and it would still be 33% less than it was in 1994. And it would still be an incredible deal too, because customers would be getting a precision hand-ground thermistor, an insert molded connector, a number of plastic bonded components -- all in a sterile package shipped to their distributor of choice. Now I can either bitch about not getting $5 or even $7.50 for each device. I can even raise my price to what I think is "fair". But that doesn't change the fact that I'd lose customers in droves.

Do you understand that concept?
 
So we should emulate China, India and Pakistan? We'll never be able to compete with them for the low-end. I think Germany is a better model of the direction the US should go.
 
So we should emulate China, India and Pakistan? We'll never be able to compete with them for the low-end. I think Germany is a better model of the direction the US should go.

We shouldn't emulate anyone. First, should foster innovation (which regulation is killing). Second, we should keep out taxes, regulations and torts at a competitive level -- which doesn't mean "lowest". Mercedes are "competitive" with Lexus yet they are more expensive. But Mercedes isn't dumb enought to try to charge $400,000 per car either -- which is essentially what we're doing with our regulations, taxes. And torts. And then we act confused when people don't buy our car.
 
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