wtf is with Doctors

[Frisky]

not wanting to see an accident patient?


Need to do a follow up visit with my Doc, so I call to make an appt for today and get informed that If I go in I'll have to pay 300.00 cause they don't take insurance payments for that. They don't even care to take accident patients due to the legality issues.

I've been seeing this doc for 3 years and now i have to start looking for a doc to see me just for a check up due to things not getting any better? This is teh suck

 

[saint808]

that somehow doesn't seem legal.

 

[mrdeeznuts]

call and tell them u just want an annual physical and then when u are their mention things about the accident.

 

[Raptorex]

Contact your insurance company and seek their advice on how to pay, DO NOT seek the advice of internet users (its foolish), you are in a legal situation now and they are concerned about subrogation.

not wanting to see an accident patient?


Need to do a follow up visit with my Doc, so I call to make an appt for today and get informed that If I go in I'll have to pay 300.00 cause they don't take insurance payments for that. They don't even care to take accident patients due to the legality issues.

I've been seeing this doc for 3 years and now i have to start looking for a doc to see me just for a check up due to things not getting any better? This is teh suck

 

[Frisky]

Contact your insurance company and seek their advice on how to pay, DO NOT seek the advice of internet users (its foolish), you are in a legal situation now and they are concerned about subrogation.

im not making any medical claim on my insurance. I just want to be seen for a follow up appt.

 

[Raptorex]

im not making any medical claim on my insurance. I just want to be seen for a follow up appt.

once you informed them it was due to an accident, you have to make a claim to continue treatment, call the insurance agent and discuss, trust me here.

 

[starfish]

Accident = the may have to take time away from their practice for your legal issues/insurance issues/testify. They dont want to do that.

 

[hamstershaver]

that somehow doesn't seem legal.

they can see whoever they want to see

 

[Frisky]

once you informed them it was due to an accident, you have to make a claim to continue treatment, call the insurance agent and discuss, trust me here.

hit me on yahoo suga

 

[Frisky]

Accident = the may have to take time away from their practice for your legal issues/insurance issues/testify. They dont want to do that.

thats what the nurse told me. They avoid accident patients if they can.


so where do i go from here? Back to the ER?

 

[Raptorex]

hit me on yahoo suga

I am not at home right now, call your agent and report it but tell them you don't want to file a claim, as of yet. Ask them what the proper procedures are for your policy. Don't mess with them, you are in a contract with them, so follow it closely. Please do this at a minimum.

 

[saint808]

they can see whoever they want to see

so much for hyppocratic oath and all.

 

[pintoca]

they can see whoever they want to see

doesn't sound too ethical, specially in a profession that is supossed to have a higher rate of social responsibility.

 

[musclemom]

Listen to what MightyMouse is saying. Contact your insurance agent, get recommendations on how to proceed from them.

Worst comes to worst get your PCP to give you a referral to a neurologist.

 

[Frisky]

Listen to what MightyMouse is saying. Contact your insurance agent, get recommendations on how to proceed from them.

Worst comes to worst get your PCP to give you a referral to a neurologist.

just did

not much help

 

[pintoca]

just did

not much help

why is it not surprising that everything goes well with insurance companies up to the moment when they need to pay?

 

[Frisky]

why is it not surprising that everything goes well with insurance companies up to the moment when they need to pay?

i agree

 

[musclemom]

just did

not much help

The problem is that you're in "limbo land." I've actually been there myself. What I mean by limbo land is that I have to assume either you haven't filed a claim or the other party hasn't filed a claim yet so in reality the insurance companies aren't fully involved. Nothing gets moving until all insurance companies of involved parties are ... well, fully involved, and that usually takes 24 hours during the business week.

We had our car get totalled while it was PARKED -- legally -- in front of our house on the weekend. Since the person who did the hitting hadn't called their insurance company over the weekend my husband wasn't able to go rent a car to go to work (first marriage, we didn't have a credit card then). Once the other party contacted THEIR insurance company a rental car was delivered to our house that night, but it took 24 hours.

Generally speaking, if you want things to move faster than the insurance companies are capable of moving you end up having to go into your own pocket and saving receipts, which get reimbursed when the claim is settled.

 

[Frisky]

The problem is that you're in "limbo land." I've actually been there myself. What I mean by limbo land is that I have to assume either you haven't filed a claim or the other party hasn't filed a claim yet so in reality the insurance companies aren't fully involved. Nothing gets moving until all insurance companies of involved parties are ... well, fully involved, and that usually takes 24 hours during the business week.

We had our car get totalled while it was PARKED -- legally -- in front of our house on the weekend. Since the person who did the hitting hadn't called their insurance company over the weekend my husband wasn't able to go rent a car to go to work (first marriage, we didn't have a credit card then). Once the other party contacted THEIR insurance company a rental car was delivered to our house that night, but it took 24 hours.

Generally speaking, if you want things to move faster than the insurance companies are capable of moving you end up having to go into your own pocket and saving receipts, which get reimbursed when the claim is settled.

well at first my insurance said i have medical coverage and then said i didn't

i have to dig up my paperwork

 

[Hiatussin]

so much for hyppocratic oath and all.

fuck the hippocratic oath

its also the origin of the word hypocrisy btw

i don´t care about that communist piece of moralist suppressive crap.

I´m in med school for two reasons- because I´m interested in biology and the human body, and to attain a marketable skill.

If I can make 5 bucks an hour more doing "meaningless" vanity surgeries, or extending the life of a 90 yr old rich dude who doesn´t look after his health, than saving one cute kid after another, I´ll do the former.

What is this bullshit about doctors "responsibility" to the world? Since when do we owe people jack shit?

Do people look at McDonald´s odd since they don´t give out food to the third world? what´s the difference? people are starving you know.

Somehow doctors are held to this higher standard for some reason. A while back a friend of mine who is a GP got a DUI, which is a minor offence in Belgium really and no big deal. The prosecution at one point said my friend should know better and set an example as a GP since he´s a well known figure in the local community and has some example function. His lawyer took the bait and challenged the court for treating him inequally, and he got off with a fine and a few weeks without a drivers license.

 

[musclemom]

fuck the hippocratic oath

its also the origin of the word hypocrisy btw

i don´t care about that communist piece of moralist suppressive crap.

I´m in med school for two reasons- because I´m interested in biology and the human body, and to attain a marketable skill.

If I can make 5 bucks an hour more doing "meaningless" vanity surgeries, or extending the life of a 90 yr old rich dude who doesn´t look after his health, than saving one cute kid after another, I´ll do the former.

What is this bullshit about doctors "responsibility" to the world? Since when do we owe people jack shit?

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G'damn Hiat, your patients are gonna be some lucky motherfuckers, I tell you what From that post and everything you've ever posted on these boards you sound like one cold hearted son of a bitch. I wouldn't take my cats to a VET with your attitude.

People like you should just stick with pathology or research. There is more to treating illness than just treating the body.

 

[Cutiebaby]

that is messed up that they wont see you....i guess if ins wont help you figure it out then make a typicsl appt then while there say some thing about the pain still there and the pills making you sick......i have never been in this place but it does seem like mighty knows what he is talking about

 

[velvett]

Do you have health insurance?

If you went to the ER (at least it's what they do by me) you are assigned a follow up doctor in the field that relates to your issue.

I've been in the ER for hernia (non accident) and having my face shredded by a cat (accident) and I was seen by two attendings and then seen and sent to a surgeon and a plastic surgeon for follow up vistits and surgery.

All covered under my health insurance.

Doctors can't just turn you down, unless you're talking months later that you need a
doctor's note" and he/she doesn't want to get involved in that sort of mess I don't see how they can say no in your situation. Makes no sense.

 

[gotmilk]

there are doctors left in the New Orleans area?

 

[Mr. dB]

fuck the hippocratic oath

its also the origin of the word hypocrisy btw

hy·poc·ri·sy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
An act or instance of such falseness.


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[Middle English ipocrisie, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrnesthai, to play a part, pretend : hupo-, hypo- + krnesthai, to explain, middle voice of krnein, to decide, judge; see krei- in Indo-European Roots.]

Funny, I don't see the name "Hippocrates" anywhere in that list of linguistic roots. Maybe you should stick to Dutch etymology.

 

[bigmann245]

why is it not surprising that everything goes well with insurance companies up to the moment when they need to pay?

i use to work for an insurance company till i got fed up with them screwing policy holders. the things they dont tell you is the same as lying. not to them. they feel if you dont ask they dont have to tell you. so when it comes time to pay they point out shit in your policy that had you known before you would have never went with them.

 

[Hiatussin]

People like you should just stick with pathology or research. There is more to treating illness than just treating the body.

Sure there is. People are free to visit their astrologists, psychologists and ladies who squeeze goats testicles to tell their fortunes to get it.

Don´t assume I´d be a bastard. I´m actually a very polite guy. I just can´t stand car-salesman-doctors who smile and go Oprah on you and don´t tell you shit since it might upset you.

I dislike it when society seems to "expect" I´m doing this for them. I´m not doing it for them, anymore than the typical law student is in it "to support our glorious constitutional state".

I´ve been around in hospitals alot and have known a lot of doctors at work. They don´t respect all the patients... they´re obviously people

 

[Hiatussin]

hy·poc·ri·sy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
An act or instance of such falseness.


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[Middle English ipocrisie, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrnesthai, to play a part, pretend : hupo-, hypo- + krnesthai, to explain, middle voice of krnein, to decide, judge; see krei- in Indo-European Roots.]

Funny, I don't see the name "Hippocrates" anywhere in that list of linguistic roots. Maybe you should stick to Dutch etymology.

I didn´t check, maybe you´re right, but the even greater similarity between the words in my language and the fact that I´d heard it even before going to med made me think so.

It COULD be named after it anyway.

most doctors still take that thing and it basically comes down to

never doing an abortion
never doing euthanasia
providing your services for the good of humanity to best of your ability

True for those who join Médecins Sans Frontières, maybe. Although most who do that seem to be doing it for a good resume, too.

 

[Mr. dB]

This thread is just further proof that in so-called free-market medicine, the patients come last. I can't wait 'til the whole medical profession gets the rug pulled out from under them.

 

[scout69]

I dont have insurance, you can either sign up for charity care..Which pays 100% of all my hospital visits, as for a Doc find a better one unless it's blood work which I dont pay for at the Office I pay a flat fee off 63 dollars..For an kind of check up..Look around or a better doctor sweetheart...

 

[Hiatussin]

This thread is just further proof that in so-called free-market medicine, the patients come last. I can't wait 'til the whole medical profession gets the rug pulled out from under them.

It won´t.

Could you explain why you expect this entirely different attitude in this sector?

Do you chastise Walmart for setting its goal to make profit instead of setting as goal to please people?

Besides, even in a socialist medical system, the boss state is still only interested in the same thing- keeping people in the work force and paying taxes as long and as cheaply as possible, and euthanising enough pensioners who cost money.

 

[musclemom]

Sure there is. People are free to visit their astrologists, psychologists and ladies who squeeze goats testicles to tell their fortunes to get it.

Don´t assume I´d be a bastard. I´m actually a very polite guy. I just can´t stand car-salesman-doctors who smile and go Oprah on you and don´t tell you shit since it might upset you.

I dislike it when society seems to "expect" I´m doing this for them. I´m not doing it for them, anymore than the typical law student is in it "to support our glorious constitutional state".

I´ve been around in hospitals alot and have known a lot of doctors at work. They don´t respect all the patients... they´re obviously people

No, what I was commenting on was you're obvious intent. You are going into medicine because you're interested in biology/the human body, and making money. Not to alleviate suffering. Not to help people, not to heal. Yeah, let's go to the doctor who's primary interest is making money. What's his motivation for getting me healthy??? That is SO wrong it isn't even funny; it's sad, and it's disturbing.

I didn't say you're a bastard. I said you are cold, you lack compassion and empathy, essentially you are emotionally immature. You flaunt the fact that you clearly consider people who operate from an emotional center to be inferior. And while we're on the subject of inferior, I've read enough of your posts to know your thinking verges on misogynism. You seem to see the world as anything that ISN'T like you or that falls along certain lines you can understand as being inferior. You will NEVER understand how a woman operates psychologically (and you probably only understand the most basic fundamentals physically), ergo women are the ultimate in inferior. You think you're going to make a good doctor when you discount half of your patients?!?

Little boy, you may be very intelligent, you may be a certifiable genius, but you are NOT very smart.

 

[Frisky]

more meds, xrays all that crap. But my insurance won't pay for it.

 

[Hiatussin]

No, what I was commenting on was you're obvious intent. You are going into medicine because you're interested in biology/the human body, and making money. Not to alleviate suffering. Not to help people, not to heal. Yeah, let's go to the doctor who's primary interest is making money. What's his motivation for getting me healthy??? That is SO wrong it isn't even funny; it's sad, and it's disturbing.

His motivation for getting you healthy is the same motivation that drives everybody doing all their jobs in society. The meeting of a demand for which you are compensated.

Let´s assume, hypothetically, that you´re right and a good doctor always has the patients wellbeing, indiscriminate of his or her identity, as his first interest. That would mean all good doctors who aren´t working for charity organisations like Médecins Sans Frontièrs are being very inefficient at acting to their interests.

Logic demands that either you accept that you find your selfish 5 dollar luxury item more important than saving a child´s life in the third world for 5 dollars, or you live like a monk and give everything you own away.

None of this takes away from the fact that it´s always best and most efficient and pleasant for all parties to be polite in personal contact and respect each other.

I didn't say you're a bastard. I said you are cold, you lack compassion and empathy, essentially you are emotionally immature. You flaunt the fact that you clearly consider people who operate from an emotional center to be inferior. And while we're on the subject of inferior, I've read enough of your posts to know your thinking verges on misogynism. You seem to see the world as anything that ISN'T like you or that falls along certain lines you can understand as being inferior. You will NEVER understand how a woman operates psychologically (and you probably only understand the most basic fundamentals physically), ergo women are the ultimate in inferior. You think you're going to make a good doctor when you discount half of your patients?!?

I know how indignant you still are over that little sexist essay I posted back then. It was actually predominantly plagiarised and based on a type of psychoanalysis, which I consider unscientific.

I´m selfish and lack empathy. That´s true. I have trouble listening to people or keeping eye-contact when talking. I was diagnosed with some kind of autism as a child. School had me tested since I was difficult at 8 yrs and the report says I was self-evaluating before my time and was reluctant to engage in social bonding.

I´ve been with my girlfriend for over two years now and I do think she sees me as somewhat cold and distant. She seems to try extra hard to interest me because of this. I don´t tend to really miss her when we´re apart(its been a month right now, for instance), rather I miss sex. I do enjoy snuggling and playing as well when we´re together though. I´d also never lie to her or ignore her or break her down. I don´t really understand myself. Maybe I´m fairly normal and people just don´t say these things (and people are reading this and yawning).

Little boy, you may be very intelligent, you may be a certifiable genius, but you are NOT very smart.

I never said I am smart and I do realise I tend to try to reason my way through emotional areas. Maybe I am immature. Who knows. Maybe I´m a 19 yr old- with a 65 yr old father who´s "immature" to boot.

 

[Frisky]

well this thread took a turn too

 

[Hiatussin]

well this thread took a turn too

I´m sorry for (taking part in) hijacking it and I hope you get your problem solved.

 

[Frisky]

I´m sorry for (taking part in) hijacking it and I hope you get your problem solved.

lol

thats ok sweettits



i was just kidding, im pissy cause im in pain right now. Waiting for my other pain meds.. then ill be all happy again

 

[EnderJE]

There. Feel better?

 

[Frisky]

There. Feel better?

i don't wanna know where that fingers been, i hear you're into self anal exploration

 

[EnderJE]

i don't wanna know where that fingers been, i hear you're into self anal exploration

I've had a shitty day.

Not "crash my car and afraid to go to sleep" shitty, but shitty.

Someone should send ME chocolates.

 

[Mr. dB]

I was diagnosed with some kind of autism as a child. School had me tested since I was difficult at 8 yrs and the report says I was self-evaluating before my time and was reluctant to engage in social bonding.

That would probably be Asperger's Syndrome, or high-functioning Autism. Some psychologists consider Autism, Asperger's, and ADD to be related conditions drawing different combinations from a shared spectrum of symptoms.

 

[Shallow Hal]

i use to work for an insurance company till i got fed up with them screwing policy holders. the things they dont tell you is the same as lying. not to them. they feel if you dont ask they dont have to tell you. so when it comes time to pay they point out shit in your policy that had you known before you would have never went with them.

Insurance companies aren't out to screw their policy holders. If they did that they would eventually go out of business. And besides that each state has a dept of insurance that watches over them. The people who think their insurance company is screwing them don't understand their own policy.

Often times when someone signs up for a policy and they are given a booklet explaning their policy and covergae they do not read it. Then when they open a claim and find out something is not covered they blame the insurance company. People need to take responsibility to understand their policy.

 

[Shallow Hal]

well at first my insurance said i have medical coverage and then said i didn't

i have to dig up my paperwork

Not sure if have posted, but what happened in the accident? Is this something that was your fault or was it caused by another driver?

 

[javaguru]

Not sure if have posted, but what happened in the accident? Is this something that was your fault or was it caused by another driver?

She was stuffing her face with Mcgriddles because of her "bulking."

 

[Frisky]

She was stuffing her face with Mcgriddles because of her "bulking."

you remember how to tap? go practice cause ya gonna need it

 

[Razorguns]

socialist medicine cold never work here. There just aren't enough doctors & hospitals to handle the new demand.

Who wants to wait 3 weeks for an appt.

 

[Hiatussin]

socialist medicine cold never work here. There just aren't enough doctors & hospitals to handle the new demand.

Who wants to wait 3 weeks for an appt.

3 weeks?!

how about 6 months? 10 months?

depends though. if you just want to speak to a GP its within the week in Holland and it´s usually within the day in Belgium.

Certain surgeries have long long waiting lists. It´s a bunch of shit.

they make way for emergencies. A lot of the time an "emergency" had been on the waiting list to get operated for that same problem a long time.

 

[Frisky]

oh wow another fucking worthless thread by Erz, locker up too

 

[HardHat87]

can you post anymore?

 

[Frisky]

can you post anymore?

im sure i can

issues?