would it be a waste???

[LVTitan]

im scared of Dbol. i might just stick to the var. i couldnt live with myself if i got gyno

i highly doubt you will see any sides at 10mg /day... i believe it was mavy that had a few threads about "dvar" as he called it...sounded like a good idea,he has more info on it...

 

[wootoom]

i dont get why people say its bad to do 2 different orals?????? why the heck would it matter. if both doses are reasonable it doesnt matter each drug will effect you the same way. 85mg/ed of var is the same thing as 75mg/ed Var+10mg/ed of Dbol. same thing

 

[UA_Iron]

i dont get why people say its bad to do 2 different orals?????? why the heck would it matter. if both doses are reasonable it doesnt matter each drug will effect you the same way. 85mg/ed of var is the same thing as 75mg/ed Var+10mg/ed of Dbol. same thing

because people just usually parrot what others have said?

 

[glennds]

wootoom i did a cycle of dbol only out for six weeks but sort of by default. i was waiting for test/eq/var to come in and they were delayed for a few months.

anyhow, dbol is fun and you will see some quick gains but they will go away just as quick. i did not have "lower back pumps" as i have read so much about on this board. never understood what lower back pumps were anyhow.

i would not do dbol again. i just felt kind of strange and bloated (which i wasn't) on them. maybe it was psychosomatic. i just don't like dbol.

 

[BionicBC]

honestly, if 10mg of dbol gives you gyno, you shouldnt ever ever ever touch ANY AAS.

fo sho.

 

[wls8687]

Gyno at 10 mg is very rare, but using two 17-aa orals aren't good even tho you have all the milk thistle in the world.. but if you want i say go for it because the D-bol will make you feel alot better and improve the pumps in a way Anavar doesent.

 

[biggeek]

wootoom.. i was planning on running "supervar" or "extra strength var" in a few weeks as well.. hadn't decided on my doses yet.. but probably something like.. 20mgdbol/20mg var.. for 4-5 weeks.. then 10mgdbol/30mg var.. for 2-3 weeks.. and then finish with just var to help with the lean mass gains.. i've got arimidex on hand for the dbol.. and nolva for gyno.. but i don't see it being too much of a problem.. i'm not really wanting to push the dbol.. just allow the dbol to put some mass on me.. and let the var take over and make it more permanent so to speak.. i've heard nothing but good things about this combo and it seems like an amazing idea.. and it would not be that hard on the liver.. considering how many orals many other people take.. but once i start the cycle and get some time under my belt i will post my results and feedback on it so everyone can finally know how good "supervar" really is.. good luck man.. let us know if you try it soon

 

[wootoom]

i will biggeek. thanks for the input everyone. ya your right people just parrot other people. good point your exactly right

 

[sinister]

Think of what happens when you take an oral it has to pass through your liver which breaks it down and through your kidneys. 10mgs is a small amount on the avergae for guys who have done more than 1 or 2 cycles, but even this small amount can affect your Liver Function Tests( LFT ).When you pass to much through the liver it causes a strain to its function, something you do not want to do. Some damage is ir-reversible. Now think of when you put two orals in at one time you are making the liver do double time. It is def worth passing on.

 

[biggeek]

Think of what happens when you take an oral it has to pass through your liver which breaks it down and through your kidneys. 10mgs is a small amount on the avergae for guys who have done more than 1 or 2 cycles, but even this small amount can affect your Liver Function Tests( LFT ).When you pass to much through the liver it causes a strain to its function, something you do not want to do. Some damage is ir-reversible. Now think of when you put two orals in at one time you are making the liver do double time. It is def worth passing on.

But what your not seeming to get.. is all oral steroids are 17aa.. and some prescription meds are as well.. because it can survive the liver and a much much higher percentage of the medication or drug will enter the blood stream... BUT.. in making these medications and drugs 17aa.. it will put a severe beating on your liver.. and yes.. even 10mg of any 17aa will more than likely affect liver values.. BUT.. here's the point me and Wootom are trying to make.. it's the 17aa of the certain drug that hurts the liver.. not really the drug itself.. so in saying that.. 50mg of dbol.. 50mg Var.. 50mg winny.. all have around the same affect on the liver.. per se.. most orals have the same affect on liver.. some being slightly harsher.. but making something 17aa is the same across the board.. so taking 25mg of dbol and 25mg of var.. yes.. two orals.. BUT.. the liver only processes 50mg of any 17aa's.. which is not THAT much in comparison to most oral cycles.. it's not the amount of orals the liver has to break down.. but how many of them are 17aa.. as bodybuilders and what not.. we take things ALL the time that the liver has to break down but no one says a THING about those.. multivitamin's.. antioxidants.. creatine.. glutamine.. CLA.. EFA's.. tylenol.. ibuprofen.. hell.. this is just a short list of the things i can think of off this list.. make those things 17aa.. and your talking just about as much liver damage as an oral steroid.. get my point now?? ha ha.. anyway.. hope everyone is clear on this and we can all stop posting about it..

-BigGeek-