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lexikat31

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Hey ladies. I am new to this website and just started my first cycle with Winny. I am taking 50mg every other day and doing cardio mornings and evenings (2 mile run + ellyptical) with weights 4X a week. I was wondering what results I might see by the end of my cycle as I am already lean, low body fat, and have been consistently working out but was unhappy with the results (kinda hit a plateau). My male friends who body build started me on the aas and I just wanted to make sure it is appropriate. I also have researched Winny online for a while and everyone seems to have a different opinion on it. If anyone has suggestions on Winny itself, diet (I'm already doing the high protein thing), or anything else I would GREATLY appreciate it since I think all of you might know the results of this better than my male friends (I need a female perspective).

Thanks a lot
 
First hello & welcome to the boards. This is definitely the right place to start. First my initial comments are that guys who recommend to women to take AAS "to lose weight", "lean out", whatever, need to be avoided. Women cannot take these things in the same dosages or expect the same results as men. Particularly winny - this is what we call a "snake bite drug" -- the results are completely individual to different women. Some have really bad experiences, some have great experiences. Winny is also not the best choice for women because it is fairly androgenic and can very easily result in sides such as acne, deeper voice, etc. Anavar is a much safer, more predictable drug if you *must* go that route.

Because you are asking the questions that you are, I would highly recommend you stop your cycle and research more. There are amazing results you can get by just tweaking your diet & training if you've hit a plateau. Cycling AAS can just introduce more complications if you arent' clear on what you are going to accomplish with it, and understand and take responsibility for the potential sides.

A couple of things you can do to start with as we start getting some of the fine minds her to chime in. Check out the sticky at the top of the board that Daisy_Girl has posted with several excellent links to threads that may help answer some of your questions. Also can you post up your diet & training / cardio regimen and also your current stats so we have a context to start giving some good responses to help you achieve your goals. The AAS is *NOT* necessary, so don't get hung up on how you are going to continue the cycle because that is not the real goal you are trying to achieve.

Again, welcome to the EF Ladies' Board!
 
lexikat31 said:
"My male friends who body build started me on the aas and I just wanted to make sure it is appropriate.

Oh man, that's a bunch. Really. Listen to the advice Sassy gave you - she's right. Nutrition and exercise advice would be better than AAS. Some sides that come from Winny (and others) do not go away.
 
Hey! thanks for all of the advice! I thought the dose might be a bit high myself and its nice to have another opinion, or two or three. As far as my stats um - need to find a tape measurer or a good way to figure out my body fat but - I'm 5'7, 135 pounds, size 4 and rather athletic looking.
As far as workouts go its as follows in a typical week:
Mondays - am cardio, 30 minutes ellyptical, 1 mile run
evenings:lifting, arms - all arms (I'm retarded with the names of the exercises but i'll get back to ya on it). I tend to go for lighter weights with this and more reps.
Tuesdays - am - 2-4 mile run depending on how awake i am
pm - lifting, legs - squats, lunges, leg press, calf press, all the other nautilus machines. Typically do 3 sets at a/b 8 - 12 reps on each machine. Wed - yoga and cardio (running and ellyptical)
Thurs - abs class at the gym followed by a body pump class (I go to golds) then I run a/b 2 miles again
Friday - shoulders + back (again, boyfriend knows the machines and has been doing this for a while, I toodle along and do what hes doing - THAT part of the exercise seems to be working)
Sat - I work alllllllllllllllllllllllllll day and if I go to the gym after work, typically just cardio
Sun - yoga then aerobics class @ 1 hour each.
**I tend to fiddle with my abs every other night, do work with a medicine ball, lots of crunches, crunches with weight resistance (a/b 10 pounds on my chest).
Before starting on AAS I had the same workout schedule and I've found it keeps me slim but I am not getting the muscle definition that I want. Didn't really start the Winny to lose weight, but to get more definition - which I suppose would still constitute leaning up so maybe I shouldn't count on it (I know it doesn't increase muscle mass).

As far as diet goes I have been on a really high protein diet with some rice and veggies. typically I'm eating some lean beef, chicken, turkey, or fish in a given day + egg whites for breakfast which = a/b 1500 calories a day. For veggies eating a lot of broccoli, green beans, and tomato and sticking with the whole grain rice. I really really do not like a lot of vegan foods and i've read cutting down the meat and eating more vegetarian can be beneficial but I seem to be a bit too carnivorous to stick to a more "green" diet - big fan of chicken. I've been sticking to the school of thought that is "5 or 6 small meals a day" and hopefully thats ok. I'm not drinking alcohol or doing anything with caffeine either.

Like I said - body wants to go nowhere when it comes to muscle definition and I really miss my oreo cookies :( but I'm definitely fit, i've kinda had the above routine for a while now.
 
lexikat31 said:
**I tend to fiddle with my abs every other night,
Hey Lexi :)
Just an observation, what exactly are you doing for abs?

I only do abs 2x a week and have awesome results...

You also said you've been doing the same routine for a while? Maybe your body has gotten use to it and wants a little change?

I don't want you to 'fix what's not broken' but change is always good :)

$.02
 
*Bunny* said:
Hey Lexi :)
Just an observation, what exactly are you doing for abs?

I only do abs 2x a week and have awesome results...

You also said you've been doing the same routine for a while? Maybe your body has gotten use to it and wants a little change?

I don't want you to 'fix what's not broken' but change is always good :)

$.02


well, my abs I suppose are "fine" but i'd like them to be a hell of a lot better with some more definition (I do have the center line of the 6 pack and slowly getting the side lines - but still not what I want). I might indeed be used to my routine and need to vary it a bit - good pt.

For abs each week:
Monday - 3 machines 2 @ 4 reps of 8 - 12 ea. w/ weights (one is that side twisty thing, the other is a machine made by the devil - no idea what its called) then the ab cruncher thing and i do a GOOD deal on that.
Tuesday - usually don't do abs, more cardio and legs
wed - yoga and cardio, might use the ab cruncher
Thurs - abs class for 30 minutes. Work with weights, medicine ball, a lot of those things where you keep you legs straight and keep lifting them while your partner throws them straight down and to the sides. Do side bends with weights, side and straight crunches (this is my big ab day).
Fri - definite day off of abs
sat - same as monday
sun - cardio so whatever ab work I get from that is all

really I do them like 3X seriously each week then a few crunches in-between. My abs are def. more toned than the rest of me - just want a more defined 6er (as much as I can)
If you have any more suggestions lemme know :)
 
lexikat31 said:
really I do them like 3X seriously each week then a few crunches in-between. My abs are def. more toned than the rest of me - just want a more defined 6er (as much as I can)
If you have any more suggestions lemme know :)
From what I've gathered here on EF, the only way to get those abs popping more than you already have is diet diet diet... maybe making some tweaks with that as well since the muscles are obviously there :)
 
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