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Winstrol Cycle

johnt02180

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Hello All,
I am starting a cycle of winstrol and am looking for advice. My goal is to lower my body fat and gain muscle definition. I am really looking to tone up. Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for a workout plan that will help me achieve this!

Also, I am currently taking lexapro for stress.....does anyone know if winstrol and lexapro together pose any risk??

Thanks!
 
post up some stats bro. age/weight/height/bf%/diet plan

i would ask an MD about the last question. But here is some general info from the web:

CNS Drugs - Given the primary CNS effects of escitalopram, caution should be used when it is taken in combination with other centrally acting drugs. Alcohol - Although Lexapro did not potentiate the cognitive and motor effects of alcohol in a clinical trial, as with other psychotropic medications, the use of alcohol by patients taking Lexapro is not recommended. Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) - See CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS.

Drugs That Interfere With Hemostasis (NSAIDs, Aspirin, Warfarin, etc.)
Serotonin release by platelets plays an important role in hemostasis. Epidemiological studies of the case-control and cohort design that have demonstrated an association between use of psychotropic drugs that interfere with serotonin reuptake and the occurrence of upper gastrointestinal bleeding have also shown that concurrent use of an NSAID or aspirin potentiated the risk of bleeding. Thus, patients should be cautioned about the use of such drugs concurrently with Lexapro.

Cimetidine
In subjects who had received 21 days of 40 mg/day racemic citalopram, combined administration of 400 mg/day cimetidine for 8 days resulted in an increase in citalopram AUC and Cmax of 43% and 39%, respectively. The clinical significance of these findings is unknown.

Digoxin
In subjects who had received 21 days of 40 mg/day racemic citalopram, combined administration of citalopram and digoxin (single dose of 1 mg) did not significantly affect the pharmacokinetics of either citalopram or digoxin.

Lithium
Coadministration of racemic citalopram (40 mg/day for 10 days) and lithium (30 mmol/day for 5 days) had no significant effect on the pharmacokinetics of citalopram or lithium. Nevertheless, plasma lithium levels should be monitored with appropriate adjustment to the lithium dose in accordance with standard clinical practice. Because lithium may enhance the serotonergic effects of escitalopram, caution should be exercised when Lexapro and lithium are coadministered.

Pimozide and Celexa
In a controlled study, a single dose of pimozide 2 mg co-administered with racemic citalopram 40 mg given once daily for 11 days was associated with a mean increase in QTc values of approximately 10 msec compared to pimozide given alone. Racemic citalopram did not alter the mean AUC or Cmax of pimozide. The mechanism of this pharmacodynamic interaction is not known. Sumatriptan - There have been rare postmarketing reports describing patients with weakness, hyperreflexia, and incoordination following the use of an SSRI and sumatriptan. If concomitant treatment with sumatriptan and an SSRI (e.g., fluoxetine, fluvoxamine, paroxetine, sertraline, citalopram, escitalopram) is clinically warranted, appropriate observation of the patient is advised.

Theophylline
Combined administration of racemic citalopram (40 mg/day for 21 days) and the CYP1A2 substrate theophylline (single dose of 300 mg) did not affect the pharmacokinetics of theophylline. The effect of theophylline on the pharmacokinetics of citalopram was not evaluated. Warfarin - Administration of 40 mg/day racemic citalopram for 21 days did not affect the pharmacokinetics of warfarin, a CYP3A4 substrate. Prothrombin time was increased by 5%, the clinical significance of which is unknown.

Carbamazepine
Combined administration of racemic citalopram (40 mg/day for 14 days) and carbamazepine (titrated to 400 mg/day for 35 days) did not significantly affect the pharmacokinetics of carbamazepine, a CYP3A4 substrate. Although trough citalopram plasma levels were unaffected, given the enzyme-inducing properties of carbamazepine, the possibility that carbamazepine might increase the clearance of escitalopram should be considered if the two drugs are coadministered.

Triazolam
Combined administration of racemic citalopram (titrated to 40 mg/day for 28 days) and the CYP3A4 substrate triazolam (single dose of 0.25 mg) did not significantly affect the pharmacokinetics of either citalopram or triazolam.

Ketoconazole
Combined administration of racemic citalopram (40 mg) and ketoconazole (200 mg), a potent CYP3A4 inhibitor, decreased the Cmax and AUC of ketoconazole by 21% and 10%, respectively, and did not significantly affect the pharmacokinetics of citalopram.

Ritonavir
Combined administration of a single dose of ritonavir (600 mg), both a CYP3A4 substrate and a potent inhibitor of CYP3A4, and escitalopram (20 mg) did not affect the pharmacokinetics of either ritonavir or escitalopram.

CYP3A4 and -2C19 Inhibitors
In vitro studies indicated that CYP3A4 and -2C19 are the primary enzymes involved in the metabolism of escitalopram. However, coadministration of escitalopram (20 mg) and ritonavir (600 mg), a potent inhibitor of CYP3A4, did not significantly affect the pharmacokinetics of escitalopram. Because escitalopram is metabolized by multiple enzyme systems, inhibition of a single enzyme may not appreciably decrease escitalopram clearance.

Drugs Metabolized by Cytochrome P4502D6
In vitro studies did not reveal an inhibitory effect of escitalopram on CYP2D6. In addition, steady state levels of racemic citalopram were not significantly different in poor metabolizers and extensive CYP2D6 metabolizers after multiple-dose administration of citalopram, suggesting that coadministration, with escitalopram, of a drug that inhibits CYP2D6, is unlikely to have clinically significant effects on escitalopram metabolism. However, there are limited in vivo data suggesting a modest CYP2D6 inhibitory effect for escitalopram, i.e., coadministration of escitalopram (20 mg/day for 21 days) with the tricyclic antidepressant desipramine (single dose of 50 mg), a substrate for CYP2D6, resulted in a 40% increase in Cmax and a 100% increase in AUC of desipramine. The clinical significance of this finding is unknown. Nevertheless, caution is indicated in the coadministration of escitalopram and drugs metabolized by CYP2D6.

Metoprolol
Administration of 20 mg/day Lexapro for 21 days in healthy volunteers resulted in a 50% increase in Cmax and 82% increase in AUC of the beta-adrenergic blocker metoprolol (given in a single dose of 100 mg). Increased metoprolol plasma levels have been associated with decreased cardioselectivity. Coadministration of Lexapro and metoprolol had no clinically significant effects on blood pressure or heart rate. Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT) - There are no clinical studies of the combined use of ECT and escitalopram.
 
30 yrs old, I'm 5" 10", Weight 195, and body around 18%, diet is good........thanks for the info.....any idea what workout plan would be ideal for getting lean with solid tone?
 
A few suggestions, though you may not like them....bring down that bodyfat a little more before attempting any cycle... diet and exercise trims off the fat... winstrol is just icing on the (low-fat) cake.

Next, you might want to consider running a very low dosage of test with that.... winstrol will shut your natural test down... so it's a good idea to supplement it so you feel better (not to mention better gains).
 
johnt02180 said:
30 yrs old, I'm 5" 10", Weight 195, and body around 18%, diet is good........thanks for the info.....any idea what workout plan would be ideal for getting lean with solid tone?
not that i am pro i just got schooled hard, but what does diet is good mean>
 
tdidd42 said:
not that i am pro i just got schooled hard, but what does diet is good mean>

in general terms, even with taking aas shitty diet = shitty gains.

Being able to adjust your diet for all your needs such as gaining muslce mass, trying to lose bf, trying to gain muscle while lose body fat, eating every 2 hours, 1.5-2.0 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass, eating low glycemic complex carbohydrates (100% whole wheat, veggies), eating a variety of lean meat sources such as fish, turkey, lean red meats, chicken, etc., consistently eating every planned meal, knowing how an increase of as little as 250cals a day will affect your body, knowing how various percentage shifts of macronutrients affect you while keeping the cals the same, etc etc etc etc ad infinitum

it is a very individual oriented project. though some general principles seem to work for most what i do wont necessarily work for you or vice versa.
 
means a high, but clean (not mcdonalds) somewhere in the range of 2500-5000 calories a day, depending on your body and goals. sounds like you want to cut, so you probably want a calorie deficiet diet somewhere around 2500. do a buttload of research on your diet....theres just too much for me to cover. check out the diet and bodybuilding forum.

A winnie only cycle is pretty weak...you will notice gains from it, but not much. Run a low test cycle, perferable test prop.

A few suggestions, though you may not like them....bring down that bodyfat a little more before attempting any cycle... diet and exercise trims off the fat... winstrol is just icing on the (low-fat) cake.

Next, you might want to consider running a very low dosage of test with that.... winstrol will shut your natural test down... so it's a good idea to supplement it so you feel better (not to mention better gains).

Like muscleguy said, bring down your bodyfat before attempting a cycle. Work hard for 2 months and try and shred off at least 2% of BF...drink buttloads of water, get your diet dialed in, and train hard.
 
read tom veoutos burn fat build muscle i just read it this weekend and everything that everyone said on here just made 1000 times more sense to me. i felt i was always taking a few pieces of everyones diet and making my own, BAD MOVE for me. but i have same goals as you my bf was a bit lower when i started 15% and in 4 weeks it went up bc of bad diet. but i am on 200cc a week of cyp and anavar, i had winny but dropped it. i feel that and with my training and diet i will accomplish what i want, which is 6 lbs of lean muscle and 10% bf
 
read tom veoutos burn fat build muscle i just read it this weekend and everything that everyone said on here just made 1000 times more sense to me. i felt i was always taking a few pieces of everyones diet and making my own, BAD MOVE for me. but i have same goals as you my bf was a bit lower when i started 15% and in 4 weeks it went up bc of bad diet. but i am on 200cc a week of testosterone cypionate and anavar, i had Winstrol - stanozolol but dropped it. i feel that and with my training and diet i will accomplish what i want, which is 6 lbs of lean muscle and 10% bf

Yup...you would be surprised by what a dialed in diet and workout plan would do for you.
 
Thanks for the feedback....I will step up my cardio and diet for a few months before starting....what would be the ideal supplement to take with winstrol to maximize my tone and be cut?
 
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