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Why does this board stress HCGen over Clomid and Nolva...

Honestly, I'm a mod here and don't preach much...but I think the board stresses about these because they work. HCggen I always run during and after cycle. I love it. As well as N2guard. Never tried Sarms but it seems like everyone is loving it.


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You are completely wrong in so many ways... Sarms do not require a serm... I think ive researched, studied and most importantly used them long enough to know exactly how to run them... Hcgenerate keeps on cycle suppression to a minimum and its already quite low with osta... You run hcgenerate 8 weeks and then your mini pct only needs to be either hcgenerate es or the inleashed/post cycle combo... You can run a serm if you want but its completely unnecessary.... Ive seen more than plenty bloodwork results over the years to fully back this up...


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I think HCGen is an on cycle supp, not so much for PCT. I think natty test boosters are better than clomid and nolva and there's no better natty T booster than UNLEASHED pyto serms is good too. PF PSOT-CYCLE is good for estrogen and liver detox and nolva and clomid don't do that. I'm not a sarms user but if I were, it'd be with N2GAURD. It just makes sense. Theres aren't generic supplements made for everyone , they're specifically designed for steroid users.
 
You are completely wrong in so many ways... Sarms do not require a serm... I think ive researched, studied and most importantly used them long enough to know exactly how to run them... Hcgenerate keeps on cycle suppression to a minimum and its already quite low with osta... You run hcgenerate 8 weeks and then your mini pct only needs to be either hcgenerate es or the inleashed/post cycle combo... You can run a serm if you want but its completely unnecessary.... Ive seen more than plenty bloodwork results over the years to fully back this up...


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How am I wrong? I never made any claims. It's just everywhere I go on .com and everybody pretty much talks SERM for everything. I like the idea of doing HCGen on the cycle. If I do OSTA for 8 weeks at 25mg/day, what should my dosage of HCGen be? Personally, I like the Clomid/Nolva cycle because I've never used steroids of any kind and want to be 100% safe. What is inleashed?
 
How am I wrong? I never made any claims. It's just everywhere I go on .com and everybody pretty much talks SERM for everything. I like the idea of doing HCGen on the cycle. If I do OSTA for 8 weeks at 25mg/day, what should my dosage of HCGen be? Personally, I like the Clomid/Nolva cycle because I've never used steroids of any kind and want to be 100% safe. What is inleashed?


Your wrong in your other post on my sarms thread about needing clomid and nolva with sarms...

For hcgenerate you take 3 caps am and 2 caps pm...

Unleashed is excellent for recovery... Ill let nelson tell you about it since he designed... Its excellent for pct...

I recommend clomid and nolva on every steroid cycle but they are not needed with sarms
 
Your wrong in your other post on my sarms thread about needing clomid and nolva with sarms...

For hcgenerate you take 3 caps am and 2 caps pm...

Unleashed is excellent for recovery... Ill let nelson tell you about it since he designed... Its excellent for pct...

I recommend clomid and nolva on every steroid cycle but they are not needed with sarms

Thanks Dylan. At what dosage is the hcgen and for how long? Again I'd be doing an 8 week cycle of Osta at 25/mg.
 
My bad, I didn't see it. What are the negatives to HCGen? Does your test return to normal once your done or does it dip even lower?
 
My bad, I didn't see it. What are the negatives to HCGen? Does your test return to normal once your done or does it dip even lower?

dip lower? its a test booster... its to help it, not hinder it... that doesn't even make sense bro... why would you be using it to keep suppression to a minimum only to have it suppress you? that makes no sense whatsoever... HCGenerate with Fadogia Agrestis.The most powerful sex drive increasing , shut down preventing on cycle support product ever created. that covers everything about it...

HcGenerate is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains… It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle..
 
I don't get it, what am I asking that doesn't make sense? Obviously HCGen has negative consequences or everyone would just use it. I'm asking you if the body relies on it to make natural test after a while. Just like when you inject test your body will stop making its own test there has to be a negative consequence to HCGen. That's all I'm asking. I don't get why you guys are freaking out.
 
I don't get it, what am I asking that doesn't make sense? Obviously HCGen has negative consequences or everyone would just use it. I'm asking you if the body relies on it to make natural test after a while. Just like when you inject test your body will stop making its own test there has to be a negative consequence to HCGen. That's all I'm asking. I don't get why you guys are freaking out.

HCGenerate has no negative consequences to it. It's an all natural testosterone booster that actually works, and I have plenty of blood work confirming it. My PCT's consist of HCGenerate, Unleashed, and Post Cycle ONLY. I do not use more drugs like Clomid or Nolva, to PCT drugs.
While it boots natural testosterone production, when you come off it, your body's natural production returns to normal. It's NOT suppressive. Hope that answers it for you.
 
I would still use N2GUARD with sarms, but I agree with dylan that there's no reason you would need clomid afterward.
 
I don't get it, what am I asking that doesn't make sense? Obviously HCGen has negative consequences or everyone would just use it. I'm asking you if the body relies on it to make natural test after a while. Just like when you inject test your body will stop making its own test there has to be a negative consequence to HCGen. That's all I'm asking. I don't get why you guys are freaking out.

hcgenerate is non suppressive.. its a natural herb. you can essentially run it year round but its pricey so I recommend running it 2nd half of your cycle

It also benefits your cholesterol which is huge on a cycle.
 
I have everything in order for a second cycle, been 3 years approx since last cycle.
I for one choose not to use nolvadex and clomid. I will not have it on hand either. 3 months without even AI on test back then, so i didnt seem to suffer all that bad from any sides, but water. and bacne yeah D: in pct ofc. Nothing bad, i was all fine. my white ass looks alright today, i didnt give it a fight.
This time around i will be using AI though.

I will also use a pretty large pct and in double doses. For future references i will take bloods for once and really get to figure out my body.
I got hcgenerate ES and regulare x 2, instead of real HCG which is a bitch to get here. My BB friends supplier and himself seem to not even know what it is, which i think is kinda funny and damned!
My 10 year older BB friend is competing and has never used anything, but the steroids and nutrition alone. He advocates low doses and short cycles even on long esters. He had an injury not workout related and has had a full check and everything is very good he say. Yes, i will try this route aswell, even though I know alot better today.

I will use hcgenerate as the only option i have instead of real HCG
Im a firm beleiver that these products do what they are designed to do and has a good promise, good knowledgeable, caring staff with great service from their repped companies, prices and sales. It can seem abit overwhelming the way it always gets mentioned this or that product, but I think you can't stress health benefits enough and especially when you are doing enchancements on your body with steroids. Nature has the answers.
 
As others stated sarms don't need a PCT but using hcgenerate as a mini-pct is helpful. For PCT from PH's or AAS I always recommend a SERM and HCGenerate.
 
As others stated sarms don't need a PCT but using hcgenerate as a mini-pct is helpful. For PCT from PH's or AAS I always recommend a SERM and HCGenerate.

SARMs absolutely require PCT. I don't know who the hell keeps telling people that it doesn't. If you wanna run Osta at 25mg/day for 8 weeks you absolutely need PCT.
 
SARMs absolutely require PCT. I don't know who the hell keeps telling people that it doesn't. If you wanna run Osta at 25mg/day for 8 weeks you absolutely need PCT.

I dont think everyone needs PCT for sarms. My friends never did. I only did on the first run to be safe then haven't since then.

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Is rather be safe than sorry..I don't fuck around with recovery


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Here is the deal dude... You want big nuts? Nothing beats hcgen. I am not a mod

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HCGENERATE is safe and a must have during cycle. Love unleashed as well.. one of my favs

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Since sarms is mildly suppressive I would definitely add UNLEASHED and PF POST-CYCLE at the end. At least.
 
At least for SARMS, and in PCT use.

People suggest it because it works and if you use that and HCG, you can then use Post Cycle/Unleashed after, therefore you don't NEED to use more drugs like clomid/nolvadex - rather than adding more drugs to the mix use natural compounds (apart from HCG. Some people use clomid but only at low dose ie 25mg a day
 
hcgen is a hell of a product. But I wouldn't ever NOT use a serm in my pct. It's not like they are expensive are hard to get a hold of. Check out ag guys.
 
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