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I would wanna sleep with a woman on a first date. Then if we did, she would be in the G.F. list & not the marriage one. It would take her longer to get to the marriage list.
 
i dont know..
every g/f i've ever had slept with on 1st or 2nd date max..
i like woman who flow.
 
because its true.

everyone wants to feel like they ended up with someone special, and most people are jealous about sex. if she had sex with you on the first date, how many men did she have sex with prior to you? most would assume many. throw in some insecurity about sex, and bingo, you have a guy who will look elsewhere for a long term partner.
 
Question, how many women have you slept with on the 1st or 2nd date who are still around today? (not current flings)

The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. (which more often than not is true...more power to them) Bottom line is anyone, male/female can have sex at any given time with someone. Women want to feel respect and reassurance that you see more to her than just a piece of meat. If you dont see her with any other aspect....then you probably should lower your standards to that of "easy-mode". (so you can get laid on the first date of course :qt:) If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:

Of course, if you're dating a prude like me....could be endless amount of time before you get the keys to the kingdom. For me, sex is sex. What makes it better or worse is the connection/chemistry I have with a guy. The more he knows about me (and I him) the better it will be. I'm not doing the walk of shame the next morning b/c I wake up next to a dude that I could barely tell you his last name. That's retarded. (IMO) For what? Another notch under my belt? Pass. Whether a man admits it or not, when there is a girl he is REALLY into, be it subconciously or not, his respect factor grows immensely for her projecting confidence and substance to sustain a first date, 2nd date, what have you, without droppin' her drawers and making whoopie.


Now, for those out there (male/female) who actually have done the hippidy dippidy on the first or second date and now you're living in happily ever after blissful marriage for your 10th year....kudos to you. I'm not saying it CANT/WONT happen....you're obviously the exception to my (above) rule. ;)


Let the flaming begin.... :worried:
 
habitualhealth said:
Question, how many women have you slept with on the 1st or 2nd date who are still around today? (not current flings)

The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. (which more often than not is true...more power to them) Bottom line is anyone, male/female can have sex at any given time with someone. Women want to feel respect and reassurance that you see more to her than just a piece of meat. If you dont see her with any other aspect....then you probably should lower your standards to that of "easy-mode". (so you can get laid on the first date of course :qt:) If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:

Of course, if you're dating a prude like me....could be endless amount of time before you get the keys to the kingdom. For me, sex is sex. What makes it better or worse is the connection/chemistry I have with a guy. The more he knows about me (and I him) the better it will be. I'm not doing the walk of shame the next morning b/c I wake up next to a dude that I could barely tell you his last name. That's retarded. (IMO) For what? Another notch under my belt? Pass. Whether a man admits it or not, when there is a girl he is REALLY into, be it subconciously or not, his respect factor grows immensely for her projecting confidence and substance to sustain a first date, 2nd date, what have you, without droppin' her drawers and making whoopie.


Now, for those out there (male/female) who actually have done the hippidy dippidy on the first or second date and now you're living in happily ever after blissful marriage for your 10th year....kudos to you. I'm not saying it CANT/WONT happen....you're obviously the exception to my (above) rule. ;)


Let the flaming begin.... :worried:
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i agree with you........
 
habitualhealth said:
If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:
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ummmmmmmmmmm no
 
habitualhealth said:
Question, how many women have you slept with on the 1st or 2nd date who are still around today? (not current flings)

The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. (which more often than not is true...more power to them) Bottom line is anyone, male/female can have sex at any given time with someone. Women want to feel respect and reassurance that you see more to her than just a piece of meat. If you dont see her with any other aspect....then you probably should lower your standards to that of "easy-mode". (so you can get laid on the first date of course :qt:) If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:

Of course, if you're dating a prude like me....could be endless amount of time before you get the keys to the kingdom. For me, sex is sex. What makes it better or worse is the connection/chemistry I have with a guy. The more he knows about me (and I him) the better it will be. I'm not doing the walk of shame the next morning b/c I wake up next to a dude that I could barely tell you his last name. That's retarded. (IMO) For what? Another notch under my belt? Pass. Whether a man admits it or not, when there is a girl he is REALLY into, be it subconciously or not, his respect factor grows immensely for her projecting confidence and substance to sustain a first date, 2nd date, what have you, without droppin' her drawers and making whoopie.


Now, for those out there (male/female) who actually have done the hippidy dippidy on the first or second date and now you're living in happily ever after blissful marriage for your 10th year....kudos to you. I'm not saying it CANT/WONT happen....you're obviously the exception to my (above) rule. ;)


Let the flaming begin.... :worried:
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im not flaming u sister:) that was a good post
 
I agree with HH.

Besides, the first few dates are for cuddling. :rainbow:
 
I don't know about that. I've usually slept with my dates after the first or second date. The ones who took longer then that didn't stick around.
 
I have zero respect for a girl that sleeps with a guy on the first or second date but thats completely different when a woman past thirty who does it, then it doesnt matter.
 
Sex is definately a positive sign of interest, no sex just makes you wonder what they're really after (if they're not shy/prude)

Anyway that whole not fucking on the first date just came from morals in the past...whether religious or social, probably when women were considered property cuz men didn't wanna raise kids that weren't theirs (although it happens anyway). I dunno how people attached sanctity to sex, I think it puts us all at a disadvantage.

Plus...sex is how a guy expresses himself emotionally.
 
habitualhealth said:
The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. ....blah blah blah.....what's behind the panties? ........blah blah blah droppin' her drawers and making whoopie. ....blah blah blah .....
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I agree with you sunday afternoon tru friday afternoon, when I'm thinking with my big head.

On friday nite tru sunday morning, I'm thinking with the other head, and all bets are off :evil:
 
Cause that is what socitey has conditioned us to believe. If the guy is that narrow minded he is not someone I want to be with in the long term anyways. I am not big on game playing IE oh if I wait tell the 3rd date or whatever he will respect me more. :rolleyes: BULLSHIT! If I am with someone and it is the first, 2nd or whatever date and I want to fuck them I am going to fuck them. If they don't respect me in the morning that is there lose not mine.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
LOL

whats even funnier is that they think we WONT lose repect for em if they dont sleep with us after a few years of marriage.. women can be so backward ass sometimes.


They'll put out to catch us.. but wont put out to keep us.. go figure.
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Word.

I know so many guys that are either married or in a long term relationship that are miserable because they NEVER have sex anymore.

Fuck that shit, your women does that bullshit to you, get some on the side.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Cause that is what socitey has conditioned us to believe. If the guy is that narrow minded he is not someone I want to be with in the long term anyways. I am not big on game playing IE oh if I wait tell the 3rd date or whatever he will respect me more. :rolleyes: BULLSHIT! If I am with someone and it is the first, 2nd or whatever date and I want to fuck them I am going to fuck them. If they don't respect me in the morning that is there lose not mine.
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:p :heart: :qt: :evil: :rose: :luxlove: :goatslaye :licker: :sperm:
 
Law of diminishing returns...

If a woman "plays the control game" and tries to blow off his advances for too long -- eventually he'll get discontent, feel dejected, not "feelin' the love" and start gravitatin' towards women who DO find him attractive and want to touch him.

Man will only take so much, before this high-school kissy-kissy, let's play 20 questions interogation job interview every date so i can get "comfortable" with you -- gets old.

Personally - Doesn't bother me. If you don't want to put out - fine. But don't yell at me if i'm also "job interviewing" 40 other women at the same time. If you've got me on "probation" -- no reason for me not to keep lookin' during that time.

Funny -- women will open up their legs in a heartbeat for other women. But for men, it requires a 28-point checklist. Why the different rules for essentially the same physical activity??
 
habitualhealth said:
Hmmm...16, 21, 28, 30, 45....what's the difference?? (just curious of your mindset behind this)
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Not necessarily a static age, just a woman that doesnt care one way or another whether she gets married and isnt in that mind set. They are past their party years if theyve matured and are adults and usually dont do it anyhow or go out very often, but if they want to have sex then they should go for it. I have many galfriends who dont go out often at all but have just wanted to have sex. Its a maturity thing and most of the women I know dont become really mature until around thirty. A girl in her early twenties sleeping around most guys view as disgusting, just the nature of society. I know women that have an occasional fling like that and I have no less respect for them at all but they are usually very intelligent mature women that I know and would strangle me if I didnt say that. It really is an individual case by case thing anyhow, there are no rules.

Personally the years of having sex with someone without knowing them have long since past. Its something for me to share with a woman that I care about alot.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Cause that is what socitey has conditioned us to believe. If the guy is that narrow minded he is not someone I want to be with in the long term anyways. I am not big on game playing IE oh if I wait tell the 3rd date or whatever he will respect me more. :rolleyes: BULLSHIT! If I am with someone and it is the first, 2nd or whatever date and I want to fuck them I am going to fuck them. If they don't respect me in the morning that is there lose not mine.
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:wavey:
 
habitualhealth said:
Question, how many women have you slept with on the 1st or 2nd date who are still around today? (not current flings)

The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. (which more often than not is true...more power to them) Bottom line is anyone, male/female can have sex at any given time with someone. Women want to feel respect and reassurance that you see more to her than just a piece of meat. If you dont see her with any other aspect....then you probably should lower your standards to that of "easy-mode". (so you can get laid on the first date of course :qt:) If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:

Of course, if you're dating a prude like me....could be endless amount of time before you get the keys to the kingdom. For me, sex is sex. What makes it better or worse is the connection/chemistry I have with a guy. The more he knows about me (and I him) the better it will be. I'm not doing the walk of shame the next morning b/c I wake up next to a dude that I could barely tell you his last name. That's retarded. (IMO) For what? Another notch under my belt? Pass. Whether a man admits it or not, when there is a girl he is REALLY into, be it subconciously or not, his respect factor grows immensely for her projecting confidence and substance to sustain a first date, 2nd date, what have you, without droppin' her drawers and making whoopie.


Now, for those out there (male/female) who actually have done the hippidy dippidy on the first or second date and now you're living in happily ever after blissful marriage for your 10th year....kudos to you. I'm not saying it CANT/WONT happen....you're obviously the exception to my (above) rule. ;)


Let the flaming begin.... :worried:
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"You must spread some Karma around before giving it to habitualhealth again."

Good post.

Yeah, I'm "old-fashioned." :)
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Cause that is what socitey has conditioned us to believe. If the guy is that narrow minded he is not someone I want to be with in the long term anyways. I am not big on game playing IE oh if I wait tell the 3rd date or whatever he will respect me more. :rolleyes: BULLSHIT! If I am with someone and it is the first, 2nd or whatever date and I want to fuck them I am going to fuck them. If they don't respect me in the morning that is there lose not mine.
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thats exactly the type of girl i wanna marry!!!

she dont give a fuck what anybody thinks of her and will most likely be very good under pressure.. not some pussy as ho who cant deal with life's hard battles.

karma to you babe!!
 
Razorguns said:
Law of diminishing returns...

If a woman "plays the control game" and tries to blow off his advances for too long -- eventually he'll get discontent, feel dejected, not "feelin' the love" and start gravitatin' towards women who DO find him attractive and want to touch him.

Man will only take so much, before this high-school kissy-kissy, let's play 20 questions interogation job interview every date so i can get "comfortable" with you -- gets old.

Personally - Doesn't bother me. If you don't want to put out - fine. But don't yell at me if i'm also "job interviewing" 40 other women at the same time. If you've got me on "probation" -- no reason for me not to keep lookin' during that time.

Funny -- women will open up their legs in a heartbeat for other women. But for men, it requires a 28-point checklist. Why the different rules for essentially the same physical activity??
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:laugh2:

You're funny.
And right.
 
Eringobraugh said:
Personally the years of having sex with someone without knowing them have long since past. Its something for me to share with a woman that I care about alot.
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Interesting point, but can you really care alot about a person if you know nothing about them? And how much can you REALLY know about someone after a first date?
(assuming you haven't been interrogating each other prior to the date)
 
Razorguns said:
Law of diminishing returns...

If a woman "plays the control game" and tries to blow off his advances for too long -- eventually he'll get discontent, feel dejected, not "feelin' the love" and start gravitatin' towards women who DO find him attractive and want to touch him.

Man will only take so much, before this high-school kissy-kissy, let's play 20 questions interogation job interview every date so i can get "comfortable" with you -- gets old.

Personally - Doesn't bother me. If you don't want to put out - fine. But don't yell at me if i'm also "job interviewing" 40 other women at the same time. If you've got me on "probation" -- no reason for me not to keep lookin' during that time.

Funny -- women will open up their legs in a heartbeat for other women. But for men, it requires a 28-point checklist. Why the different rules for essentially the same physical activity??
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word!!!!!!!
 
satchboogie said:
thats exactly the type of girl i wanna marry!!!

she dont give a fuck what anybody thinks of her and will most likely be very good under pressure.. not some pussy as ho who cant deal with life's hard battles.

karma to you babe!!
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K! to you too QT!!

If I sleep with someone on a first date, I lie down on that bed with total respect for myself and I wake up with that same amount of respect for myself. The term "walk of shame" isn't in my vocab. It was my decision, and there is nothing shameful about it. No regrets.

If you wait a few weeks to sleep with him, and he doesn't want to see you again - does that make it any better? If a guy doesn't call back (whether I slept with him or not on the first date), it's his lost.
 
I don't think I've ever had a girl make me wait over 2 dates, but that was probably due to them not being able to control themselves around my hot self.





ok ok, fine. You caught me. Remember I dated that 20 yr old virgin for 5 weeks and still didn't get any, so apparently I am capable of waiting.
 
the way i see it...

a woman who fukcs me on the first date is just my type!
seriously, i totally dont lose respect.

in fact, i have more respect for her as i believe in free spirits.. do whatever the fuck makes you happy.

those girls who think they'll 'dry' me out for a few dates are tripping.
those are the ones i usually hit and revenge run.. lol
 
alien amp pharm said:
I don't think I've ever had a girl make me wait over 2 dates, but that was probably due to them not being able to control themselves around my hot self.





ok ok, fine. You caught me. Remember I dated that 20 yr old virgin for 5 weeks and still didn't get any, so apparently I am capable of waiting.
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id NEVER EVER date a virgin..
seems like a total waste of time.
i mean.. who wants to wait wait and wait and still maybe not get shit.

and even if you hit that, sex aint gonna be all that great til you properly train her.

and even then, she probably wont know how to treat a man like a man.
 
nycgirl said:
K! to you too QT!!

If I sleep with someone on a first date, I lie down on that bed with total respect for myself and I wake up with that same amount of respect for myself. The term "walk of shame" isn't in my vocab. It was my decision, and there is nothing shameful about it. No regrets.

If you wait a few weeks to sleep with him, and he doesn't want to see you again - does that make it any better? If a guy doesn't call back (whether I slept with him or not on the first date), it's his lost.
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More power to you too. "Walk of shame" is something I personally came up with (i tend to create my own guide to communication) after seeing dozens of friends both male AND female bitch and complain because either:
A. They woke up and wanted to chew their own arm off because "i cant believe i slept with him/her"
B. i hear the "i KNEW that's all they were after"
C. "i should've waited to get to know them more"

Most people have either been there or know someone who has.

In my world, it's about morals. I am a self respecting lady regardless of who's bed I lie down in or wake up in. That certainly won't change. But I know how I (<~~ME personally) view random sex. That's what I hold on to. Morals, beliefs, respect, a more than standard for life. As well, I am a mother of a little girl who one day will be in my shoes.....or standing next to the guy who is trying to bed her on the first date. I can not possibly see myself telling her at 15 or 16 (hell, 12 & 13 these days) "oh honey, it's ok to sleep with whomever you want just as long the respect you have for yourself when you lie down with him...you have when you wake...regardless if he respects you or not....he's just a guy...oh, so don't you worry." Hell, effin, no. I feel (<~~~ME, dang why do I feel I have to reiterate that everytime i post on the boards these days...lol) a woman who is confident, secure, self respecting, and intuitive can make the judgement call on when the right time is to get it on in the relationship. Let's face it, until we (women) are butt ergly, smell funny, have funky a$$ breath, etc....a man is not going to turn down sex.

Fact is, our reputation it typically defined by our character.

If a guy/girl doesn't call back because you DONT sleep with him...what do conclude from it? I agree with the "who gives a flying f**k what anyone thinks of me" idea....but truth be told in MY world....I do care to an extent. I think we all do. For instance, some people were insecure about posting up their pics on EF because they didn't want anyone to say they were ugly or what have you.....why? Because they care that others think. I may not care what anyone on EF thinks (although, i love you all :qt: )....in my own personal world....the world that plays a role in my daughter's life....u better believe i do.

I respect everyone's opinion on this for sure. And it's good to get insight on how other people view the subject.
 
I like what HH said and what QT said..
just remember there are some guys that really do respect a complete and total slut in the bedroom..

I think it matters more the next morning or the next few days if that guy or girl says hey lets go get something to eat or watch a flick or whatever
 
Depends what your talking about.. lie down have sex get kicked outta bed.. then nope i'm not sure i'm digging it.

But i find more and more now a days first, second and third dates aren't lasting a few hours = sometimes they are lasting days.. as weird as that sounds..

Sex is sometimes the perfect ending for these types of connections. For the people that have had these types of dates, you know what i am talking about. And for the ones that haven't, then maybe your not comfortable enough with yourself, and your sexuality, in order to express yourself in this way.

:P
 
wnt2bBeast said:
I like what HH said and what QT said..
just remember there are some guys that really do respect a complete and total slut in the bedroom..

I think it matters more the next morning or the next few days if that guy or girl says hey lets go get something to eat or watch a flick or whatever
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When the timing is right, I respect a complete and total slut in the bedroom too. ;)

Your last line is right on the money too.
 
this thread makes about as much sense as a priest handing out marital advice.
 
habitualhealth said:
A. They woke up and wanted to chew their own arm off because "i cant believe i slept with him/her"
B. i hear the "i KNEW that's all they were after"
C. "i should've waited to get to know them more"
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I have never once thought any of these things. Just cause I will sleep with someone on the first date doesn't mean I am still not picky about who that someone is.
 
Years ago i was "dating" (job interview) this chick for awhile. Of course paying her way all the way through.

Typical "no no not into that" line everytime i got her somehow to the couch and made the move. But of course wanted to keep dating. Continualyl holding up that pootang as some holy grail reward that i should strive for.

Whatever. Finally i guess i "met HER qualifications" and being used to being in control all her life, _decided_ that it was now time for _us_ to finally have sex. Thanks for the decision-making honey.

Whatever. That boat has left the dock ages ago. I OWNED her. I said i wasn't interested.

Of course _she_ flipped. "I can't believe this!" blah blah.

Funny, shoe, other, foot.

Date a chick long enough without sex, and eventually u become desensitized with the rejeections and just plain "don't care anymore".

Hope she was happy. She wasted many many hours with me only for me to bail at the end. Well done Sally.
 
as long as you have your own set of personal morals and you stick to themm.. you'll always have respect.. even from people who may not agree with those morals
 
CanadianCutie said:
Sex is sometimes the perfect ending for these types of connections. For the people that have had these types of dates, you know what i am talking about. And for the ones that haven't, then maybe your not comfortable enough with yourself, and your sexuality, in order to express yourself in this way.

:P
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Exactly, there is nothing wrong with a woman that is comfortable with her sexuality and desires. I don't see how it is 2005, and women can demand equals rights yet they are uncomfortable and ashamed of their sexual needs.

Furthermore, I agree with QT. Just because you sleep with someone on the first date does not mean that the girl was not picky.
 
I think it all depends on the person.

There really isn't any reason why two people shouldn't be able to have sex on the 1st or 2nd date, if you are feeling horny, attracted to the person, then why not?

Society has taught us that sex is something more then it really is. Reality check ladies, its only what you make of it.

Sure, chicks are scared that they will have sex with a dude and he's gonna blow her off shortly after. But reality check here, if he's gonna do that on the 1st date, he'll do it on the 10th date. So you are doing yourself a favore by figuring shit out sooner rather then later.

The fact is, most relationships DO NOT work out. You will ended up dating FAR more people then you actually have a real relationship with, let alone marry. Sex is part of dating, its part of getting to know someone, its part of figuring out compatibility and chemistry.


Sure you want to get to know someone before being completely intimate with someone, so I'm not saying skip the conversation and get straight to the fucking, but jesus, don't be so uptight about it. Its only pussy, not some holy kingdom.
 
Lestat said:
Sure, chicks are scared that they will have sex with a dude and he's gonna blow her off shortly after. But reality check here, if he's gonna do that on the 1st date, he'll do it on the 10th date. So you are doing yourself a favore by figuring shit out sooner rather then later.
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LOL... shameless plug for my sex on the first date
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I have never once thought any of these things. Just cause I will sleep with someone on the first date doesn't mean I am still not picky about who that someone is.
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Well that's good you haven't dollface. I will assume you don't incorporate the "walk of shame" either into your vocab. I'm not suggesting that because you make the decision to sleep with someone on a first date you are either right or wrong. To each their own. My posts/feelings on the subject are a mirror if my own rhyme and reason in life. Everything in my life is encompassed by my own experiences. Be it, personal or watching/learning from a distance. That's all. ;)
 
habitualhealth said:
More power to you too. "Walk of shame" is something I personally came up with (i tend to create my own guide to communication) after seeing dozens of friends both male AND female bitch and complain because either:
A. They woke up and wanted to chew their own arm off because "i cant believe i slept with him/her"
B. i hear the "i KNEW that's all they were after"
C. "i should've waited to get to know them more"

Most people have either been there or know someone who has.

In my world, it's about morals. I am a self respecting lady regardless of who's bed I lie down in or wake up in. That certainly won't change. But I know how I (<~~ME personally) view random sex. That's what I hold on to. Morals, beliefs, respect, a more than standard for life. As well, I am a mother of a little girl who one day will be in my shoes.....or standing next to the guy who is trying to bed her on the first date. I can not possibly see myself telling her at 15 or 16 (hell, 12 & 13 these days) "oh honey, it's ok to sleep with whomever you want just as long the respect you have for yourself when you lie down with him...you have when you wake...regardless if he respects you or not....he's just a guy...oh, so don't you worry." Hell, effin, no. I feel (<~~~ME, dang why do I feel I have to reiterate that everytime i post on the boards these days...lol) a woman who is confident, secure, self respecting, and intuitive can make the judgement call on when the right time is to get it on in the relationship. Let's face it, until we (women) are butt ergly, smell funny, have funky a$$ breath, etc....a man is not going to turn down sex.

Fact is, our reputation it typically defined by our character.

If a guy/girl doesn't call back because you DONT sleep with him...what do conclude from it? I agree with the "who gives a flying f**k what anyone thinks of me" idea....but truth be told in MY world....I do care to an extent. I think we all do. For instance, some people were insecure about posting up their pics on EF because they didn't want anyone to say they were ugly or what have you.....why? Because they care that others think. I may not care what anyone on EF thinks (although, i love you all :qt: )....in my own personal world....the world that plays a role in my daughter's life....u better believe i do.

I respect everyone's opinion on this for sure. And it's good to get insight on how other people view the subject.
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Well its interesting to see someone with moral values these days speak out about them. Good for you for that.

Your reputation is defined by your actions... that's what people end up judging you by. Sometimes they prejudge you, and that impression is oftentimes hard to overcome, but your actions are what is key to gaining respect.

The only other thing I really have to say is that not all men are out for sex... it may sound unbelievable, but its true, I think I know a guy who knows a guy..... ;)
 
"walk of shame" LOL

any guy who would make a woman feel ashamed after sex on ANY date doesnt deserve sex.. and any woman who cant see through a guys game enough to know that the type of guy he is.. should be ashamed.

I guess in that case they would be perfect for each other.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
"walk of shame" LOL

any guy who would make a woman feel ashamed after sex on ANY date doesnt deserve sex.. and any woman who cant see through a guys game enough to know that the type of guy he is.. should be ashamed.

I guess in that case they would be perfect for each other.
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Werd
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
"walk of shame" LOL

any guy who would make a woman feel ashamed after sex on ANY date doesnt deserve sex.. and any woman who cant see through a guys game enough to know that the type of guy he is.. should be ashamed.

I guess in that case they would be perfect for each other.
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Agree.
 
I have an idea. We will get a few women from the board to go out with me on dates. The first will have sex with me on the first date. The second woman on the second date. The third on the third.
We will all track our experiences and how they affected us.
After all is said and done we will have one giant group sex session. It will be taped on put on Elite.
I am currently accepting applications. I ask that you submit a list of updated references too.
 
Personally I think 4th date is prime fucking time. I don't consider myself to a great catch so if she fucks me on the first date i'm thinking who else is she fucking? The exception is people you meet online and have been chat/flirting with for months beforehand. I expect sex within the first hour of meeting then.
 
The Shadow said:
HH is right on the money on this one guys
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There is no right and wrong here hero morality is subjective. You can agree with her or not doesn't make her view right or wrong just her view.
 
his respect factor grows immensely for her projecting confidence and substance to sustain a first date, 2nd date, what have you, without droppin' her drawers and making whoopie.
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lol.

I can't believe you said "making whoopie". Thats almost as bad as your "shake my groove thang"lol :nerd:
 
superqt4u2nv said:
There is no right and wrong here hero morality is subjective. You can agree with her or not doesn't make her view right or wrong just her view.
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Agree. Right or Wrong according to whom?
 
I love how people make "assumptions" about people on whether they sleep within the first 5 seconds of getting through the door -- or after 2 boring dates.

You can draw almost no conclusions about their character. Most people are horrible at figuring out "character", which is why the world is filled with people who hate and despise their ex's.

But wait "I thought you accurately figured them out based upon X,Y,Z tests when you met them? Yeah right.

I can draw more of a accurate analysis of a person based upon the car they drive, what they wear and their job -- then how fast they fuck.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
You can agree with her or not doesn't make her view right or wrong just her view.
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I do.....and it makes her view right in my opinion.....regardless of your, or anyone else's thoughts.


"hero morality"



not sure where that term came from, but even the term "heroic" is just "your view", isnt it?

So its certainly not right or wrong...its just your view - right??



Feel me?
 
Razorguns said:
Years ago i was "dating" (job interview) this chick for awhile. Of course paying her way all the way through.

Typical "no no not into that" line everytime i got her somehow to the couch and made the move. But of course wanted to keep dating. Continualyl holding up that pootang as some holy grail reward that i should strive for.

Whatever. Finally i guess i "met HER qualifications" and being used to being in control all her life, _decided_ that it was now time for _us_ to finally have sex. Thanks for the decision-making honey.

Whatever. That boat has left the dock ages ago. I OWNED her. I said i wasn't interested.

Of course _she_ flipped. "I can't believe this!" blah blah.

Funny, shoe, other, foot.

Date a chick long enough without sex, and eventually u become desensitized with the rejeections and just plain "don't care anymore".

Hope she was happy. She wasted many many hours with me only for me to bail at the end. Well done Sally.
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Can I shake your hand?
 
habitualhealth said:
Shut yer pie hole. I see you couldn't live without my posts huh? (pfft "ignore"....my ass :rolleyes: )


I guess "making whoopie" does take away from the "sexy" factor of doing it huh? :worried:
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I never said i had you on ignore...I just joked that some of the guys that may want you....may have changed their mind.:)

lol. I have a vision of you on the 4.532 date (or whatever is mathematically appropriate for sex) Saying in you sexy voice. "Well, we have went on 4.532 dates, you have bought me 2.5 meals, you walked me in the park, met my parents, my dog likes you, and you signed the appropriate paper work. Sooooooo, Leeettss mmmaaakke whoooopie. :QT:
 
geigh

habitualhealth said:
Question, how many women have you slept with on the 1st or 2nd date who are still around today? (not current flings)

The consensus is that men typically are out for sex. (which more often than not is true...more power to them) Bottom line is anyone, male/female can have sex at any given time with someone. Women want to feel respect and reassurance that you see more to her than just a piece of meat. If you dont see her with any other aspect....then you probably should lower your standards to that of "easy-mode". (so you can get laid on the first date of course :qt:) If you're really into a chic, wouldn't you want her to see you respect her for more than a lay? You know, enough to show that your interest in her is more than what's behind the panties? Say 2nd date, third date, god forbid 4th date? :worried:

Of course, if you're dating a prude like me....could be endless amount of time before you get the keys to the kingdom. For me, sex is sex. What makes it better or worse is the connection/chemistry I have with a guy. The more he knows about me (and I him) the better it will be. I'm not doing the walk of shame the next morning b/c I wake up next to a dude that I could barely tell you his last name.


Let the flaming begin.... :worried:
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Keys to the kingdom? Quite the over estimation I'd say.

And who's going to fund your 10-date insecurity issue?

A guy. Not a smart one though. Just a desperate one

IMO
 
awittyusername said:
I never said i had you on ignore...I just joked that some of the guys that may want you....may have changed their mind.:)

lol. I have a vision of you on the 4.532 date (or whatever is mathematically appropriate for sex) Saying in you sexy voice. "Well, we have went on 4.532 dates, you have bought me 2.5 meals, you walked me in the park, met my parents, my dog likes you, and you signed the appropriate paper work. Sooooooo, Leeettss mmmaaakke whoooopie. :QT:
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LMAO!! Hahahahaha


Dame it, I'm not June Cleaver!
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I wouldn't mind feeling you but that goes against your morals. :)
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LOL!! We will have to take him out on a few dates (appetizer or dessert - not both. I'm on a budget). Maybe by the 3rd date, he will let us feel him up. :qt:
 
nycgirl said:
LOL!! We will have to take him out on a few dates (appetizer or dessert - not both. I'm on a budget). Maybe by the 3rd date, he will let us feel him up. :qt:
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Losers.

It only took me a handshake and a wink.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I wouldn't mind feeling you but that goes against your morals. :)
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Where did that come form?

I got felt up in Atlanta - didnt bother me at all.....


nyc - you missed you chance when Jen patted my pec...


oh...and my booty too


damn Jen.....
 
The Shadow said:
Where did that come form?

I got felt up in Atlanta - didnt bother me at all.....
nyc - you missed you chance when Jen patted my pec...
oh...and my booty too
damn Jen.....
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No, I got to touch your pec. I hope I didn't disrespect you or make you feel like less of a gentleman.
 
nycgirl said:
No, I got to touch your pec. I hope I didn't disrespect you or make you feel like less of a gentleman.
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wtf?!? Nobody touched me!



that's ok though. I was touching myself.

Y'all didn't notice did you?
 
nycgirl said:
No, I got to touch your pec. I hope I didn't disrespect you or make you feel like less of a gentleman.
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well.....I was conflicted for like half a nano-second

LOL
 
alien amp pharm said:
wtf?!? Nobody touched me!



that's ok though. I was touching myself.

Y'all didn't notice did you?
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I touched you ;)
 
The Shadow said:
Where did that come form?

I got felt up in Atlanta - didnt bother me at all.....


nyc - you missed you chance when Jen patted my pec...


oh...and my booty too


damn Jen.....
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Whaaaaaaaaaattttt????????

You TOLD me to!! Show off.... :rolleyes:
 
LOL @ all the people who live by a pre-defined "checklist" of rules.

It's not a matter of first date, tenth date, marriage or never. It's a matter of doing what one feels is right FOR THAT SITUATION and not being so closed minded because of a set of previously established universal rules. Whatever the chemistry dictates is ultimately what is "right". If the moment calls for a first date fuck, then so be it. If the moment calls for a few dates (days, weeks, months) then intimacy, then so be it. There is no right or wrong so long as the person does as the 'gods have laid forth'.

All these people who live through a set checklist and concrete mindset are fools. No sex until date #5 after having went on 3.5 dates racking up 17.5 hours worth of my time and spending $267.35 on me. Fool. Likewise, she's toast right away if she doesn't have sex with me on the very first date and give me what I want. Fool as well. Someone who goes with the moment and situation at hand (which varies from one person to another) is ultimately the wise one.

I have went out on dates where I waited a few days, weeks, and even months before having sex because it just felt "right". Likewise, I have went out on dates where I had sex on the very first date. Does this take away from my self-respect? Hell fuckin NO! I have my self-respect because I don't live by a narrow minded ridged way of thinking.

So please people, stop watching and living through Oprah, Dr. Phill and all those self-help relationship books.
 
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