Who are the real MODERATES on this board...?

[RyanH]

We all know who the extreme conservatives are on this board, and we know who the sensible liberals are........but,

who are the moderates? People love to call themselves moderates, since moderates are usually considered pragmatist that can view both sides of an issue very well.

Well, some of you might argue that you are moderate, but the words written on here over the long haul tell the true story.

Thus far, these are who I find to be true moderates on political issues. Of course, correct me If I by some chance I am incorrect:

BIGPHYSICSBASTARD
WODIN
BOCEPHUS
MAY1010.
Runner
Frackal

Hats off to these people for seeing both sides of a coin.

Ryan:

 

[runner]

i consider myself slightly right of center.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

We all know who the extreme conservatives are on this board

Originally posted by RyanH
and we know who the sensible liberals are

Always trying to stir that pot....

You are right about me. I try to see issues from both sides and then make an educated decision.

 

[Frackal]

Hey you forgot me you bleeding heart, tofu burger eating yuppie!

 

[RyanH]

Hey you forgot me you bleeding heart, tofu burger eating yuppie!

I'm adding you to my post....I agree, I have always thought of you as a moderate......sometimes you stand up to the extremists on this board....

Don't fuck with the FRACKAL

Ryan.

 

[Frackal]

LOL...yup, I look at things strictly at an issue by issue basis, and I try to be fair and attentive to all sides.

 

[MoneyBags]

i know more than any of you.

 

[RyanH]

Moneybags is a flaming LIBERAL.

 

[MoneyBags]

Moneybags is a flaming LIBERAL.

dont you dare insult me like that. thats a vicious personal attack.

 

[TxCollegeguy]

Ryan I consider myself a Moderate, though I tend to dissagree on more social spending issues I agree that all Americans should be protected under the law

 

[RyanH]

Ryan I consider myself a Moderate, though I tend to dissagree on more social spending issues I agree that all Americans should be protected under the law

A few questions for you TXCollegeGuy:

Do you support a woman's right to choose?

Do you support the right for gays to be together?

Do you believe drugs should be legalized?

 

[MoneyBags]

A few questions for you TXCollegeGuy:

Do you support a woman's right to choose?

i love abortion but i consider it both a mans and womans right.

Do you support the right for gays to be together?

i couldnt care less what gays do. let them be together.

Do you believe drugs should be legalized?

i wouldnt mind if i didnt think the deaths from drugged up driving wouldnt eclipse the deaths from drunk driving. i dont care if people do drugs as long as it doesnt affect others.

 

[RyanH]

Alright moneybags, a few more questions:

Do you believe the environment is in a state of decline?

Do you believe that social security should be privatized?

Do you believe that morality is lacking in our country?

 

[KAYNE]

.......BUT RYAN, YOU DONT SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN!!! YOU ONLY SEE YOUR SIDE OF THE COIN.

KAYNE

 

[MoneyBags]

Alright moneybags, a few more questions:

Do you believe the environment is in a state of decline?

no. if the environment was in serious danger then it will be worth money to fix it and it will be fixed. it is not a concern of mine.

Do you believe that social security should be privatized?

social security should be eliminated.

Do you believe that morality is lacking in our country?

no. what would make someone think it is? times change. old people hate the new shit. life goes on.

 

[talonracer]

Well I'm Liberatarian if anything.

Legalize drugs...............YES!!! Didn't prohibition teach us anything??

Abortion?? Horrible, inhumane........but ITS A WOMAN'S BODY DAMMIT!!! Keep it legal and safe

Gays??? People just like us..........no differant. Let them marry too.


Unfortunately Ryan H's definition of a moderate is actually a liberal. He and 2 Thick are Ultra-Left wingers who share more in common with Joseph Stalin than any moderate.

Hey I actually like Ryan H..........his views are interesting and he is passionate about what be believes in.........like I said this isn't the Rush Limfatass show it cool to have all ends of the political spectrum represented

 

[manny78]

I have a foot on both sides. Always voted liberal for the federal elections. I'm totally for free abortion, legalization of marijuana...... I'm against mixing church and politicians.

 

[RyanH]

TalonRacer, you are a moderate. SURPRISE, for me.

Moneybags, you are right of center...meaning you are someone who is between center and conservative.

I'm not an ultra liberal, I would say I'm between liberal and moderate.

 

[RyanH]

I have a foot on both sides. Always voted liberal for the federal elections. I'm totally for free abortion, legalization of marijuana...... I'm against mixing church and politicians.

Manny is indeed a moderate....I'm surprised.

 

[Binky]

RyanH,

Please take this in the best way possible...
I think you are a fuck-up.
Where does that put me???

 

[talonracer]

Alright moneybags, a few more questions:

Do you believe the environment is in a state of decline?

Do you believe that social security should be privatized?

Do you believe that morality is lacking in our country?

Well I don't think its in decline, but i do get damn mad when I see all the farmland in my area going to housing tracts. I spent most of my younger life in the woods and I'd rather look at a tree than a split-level.

Social Security is a mess because the government runs it, the private sector knows how to make a profit so let them at it.

Morality?? These questions always bug me....if there's an area I'm mega liberal in its morals. No one can tell me how many threesomes I can have with my wife in our own bedroom or how to raise my kids. Too often the right wing tries to define morality in our country as, "If you having fun its immoral" Bullcrap. Hey if I'm going to hell I'm going in a chariot baby

 

[RyanH]

RyanH,

Please take this in the best way possible...
I think you are a fuck-up.
Where does that put me???

Inside your trailerpark.

 

[manny78]

Manny is indeed a moderate....I'm surprised.

Thanks bro. Its a family affair lol And I should also add that I just dont understand why you americans are waiting to put a real National Health care program for everyone, poor or rich.

 

[Binky]

Inside your trailerpark.

You are so far from reality....
It just reinforces my opinon's of you.

 

[the nature boy]

Thanks bro. Its a family affair lol And I should also add that I just dont understand why you americans are waiting to put a real National Health care program for everyone, poor or rich.

uh oh, you'll be labeled a liberal for that kind of thinking.

alert, alert, socialist spotted, socialist spotted. j/k

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Binky,

Look here you fucking turd trouper, the more you fucking keep posting the more I fucking see how truely retarded you are. Yet again, you have managed to make as much sense as two reatrds having a wheelchair race the wrong way down I-55 Blindfolded and stoned. Bitch I or even big bird would drop your ass faster than George Micheal drops his pants while running up to an occupied bathroom stall. You little brother wraps his lips around your tool faster than Bill clinton sucking on a doobie, doesn't he? Tell the truth cum stain! Let me know the next time your mommy lets you come out and play, so I can come by and bitch slap you. I will leave you in a sobbing heap of blood, shit, and broken dreams.

Now SHUT THE FUCK UP!

 

[manny78]

uh oh, you'll be labeled a liberal for that kind of thinking.

alert, alert, socialist spotted, socialist spotted. j/k

Canada isnt a real "socialist" country. Its just something rationnal to have a health care for everyone. Its right not a privilege.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Canada isnt a real "socialist" country. Its just something rationnal to have a health care for everyone. Its right not a privilege.

Not in the United States of America.

Please inform me why I should have to pay for someone's healtcare. We have had this discussion many time before. The canadian system sucks. It is abused to no end, thus meaning the really ill are less likely to be treated with timely care.

 

[Binky]

Binky,

Look here you fucking turd trouper, the more you fucking keep posting the more I fucking see how truely retarded you are. Yet again, you have managed to make as much sense as two reatrds having a wheelchair race the wrong way down I-55 Blindfolded and stoned. Bitch I or even big bird would drop your ass faster than George Micheal drops his pants while running up to an occupied bathroom stall. You little brother wraps his lips around your tool faster than Bill clinton sucking on a doobie, doesn't he? Tell the truth cum stain! Let me know the next time your mommy lets you come out and play, so I can come by and bitch slap you. I will leave you in a sobbing heap of blood, shit, and broken dreams.

Now SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Allright Cockbreath, you wanna go????
You are yet another 21yr old fuckup who know's jack shit about life or politics.
When you start paying taxes and raising a family, then
maybe I'll listen to your garbage.
You wanna 'drop my ass' ??? bring it on faggot.
You name the time and place....I'll be there.
Go ahead, my e-mail is right there at the bottom.

Ya know what pussy....fuck that, I'm PM'ing you
with my address.
dumb fuck.

 

[manny78]

Not in the United States of America.

Please inform me why I should have to pay for someone's healtcare. We have had this discussion many time before. The canadian system sucks. It is abused to no end, thus meaning the really ill are less likely to be treated with timely care.

I would like to have RyanH's point of view.....

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Allright Cockbreath, you wanna go????
You are yet another 21yr old fuckup who know's jack shit about life or politics.
When you start paying taxes and raising a family, then
maybe I'll listen to your garbage.
You wanna 'drop my ass' ??? bring it on faggot.
You name the time and place....I'll be there.
Go ahead, my e-mail is right there at the bottom.

Ya know what pussy....fuck that, I'm PM'ing you
with my address.
dumb fuck.

Trust me brother, I pay plenty in taxes.

You say I know nothing about life or politics? What exactly have you contributed to the threads on this board? You do nothing more then flame and insult RyanH with every post. I played your little game and now you want to get all pissed. You can have whatever opinion you want of Ryan, but there is no need to ruin good thread with your mindless insults.

 

[RyanH]

Binky......you're such a child......wanting to meet Bocephus' so you can try to use your fists over someone from the internet. Or, its probably an attempt to prove your masculinity........

Grow-up! Bocephus is right.

Manny, I supported Hillary Clinton's efforts to give all Americans universal healthcare. I like the Canadian heath system and wish America would adopt a similar program.

The reason Hillary Clinton failed is because the big insurance companies were scared shitless, and did everything in their power to make sure they will continue to have the right to price gouge all Americans.

In short, money defeated a person's right to healthcare. But we still have hope that someday all Americans will have universal healthcare.

 

[the nature boy]

The reason Hillary Clinton failed is because the big insurance companies were scared shitless, and did everything in their power to make sure they will continue to have the right to price gouge all Americans.

excellent point Ryan. Insurance companies are crooked as hell anyways.

 

[2Thick]

I find myself to be an apolitical commentator.

If people think that I am always stating my personal opinion then they are naive.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

excellent point Ryan. Insurance companies are crooked as hell anyways.

so is the government....

 

[Binky]

Trust me brother, I pay plenty in taxes.

You say I know nothing about life or politics? What exactly have you contributed to the threads on this board? You do nothing more then flame and insult RyanH with every post. I played your little game and now you want to get all pissed. You can have whatever opinion you want of Ryan, but there is no need to ruin good thread with your mindless insults.

Well asshole....you insulted me.
Read back a couple of lines.

And I doubt you've paid jack shit in taxes.
I give ryan credit...he at least think's before he spew's his shit out. You however, are a piece of leftover jizz.
Ryan and I disagree based on our social standing.
You are irrelevant.

 

[RyanH]

I find myself to be an apolitical commentator.

If people think that I am always stating my personal opinion then they are naive.

Now that you mention it.....you are an apolitical commentator.

 

[Austin316]

Im to the right, but not totally conservative. For example, I don't believe its my right to tell a women she has to have a child she doesn't want and could ruin her. There are more examples on non conservative views, however I don't ever seeing myself vote democrat. Republican, independant, libertarian, green, but never demo

 

[TxCollegeguy]

Ryan to answer those questions before I head to bed

No I do not support that right, but I do not feel my opinon should stop them for choosing for themselves. I make no physical effort to stop anyone frome choosing, but I do support abortions in case of rape and incest. If they took away the right to choose it wouldn't bother me.

Yes I feel Gays and Lesbians should have the right to legally be together. I'm not sure if I would use the word "mariage" but why should i care what 2 people do in their homes and with their money...This would or should I say shouldn't have any bearing on me or my money in this world...Perhaps they will suffer the legal problems from divorces and they would ask themselves if it's really worth it. To each his/her own...

I believe that people should be allowed to decide for themselves what substances they put into their own bodies...I mean we can still drink all the Alcohol we want and smoke all the tobbaco we want as well as drink as much caffeine as we want...Why should we not do the same for everything else? Like alcohol if you are under the influence of any substance and you are impaired then you should have the same consequences as Alcohol.

My Personal beliefs for my life tend to be more on the conservative side, but whats good for me doesn't mean it's good for everyone else. I think People should make choices for themselves instead of the Govt doing it for them. I have common sense to know that I dont want to make choices for other citizens personal lifes, like I wish they wouldn't make choices for my personal life

 

[RyanH]

Ryan to answer those questions before I head to bed

No I do not support that right, but I do not feel my opinon should stop them for choosing for themselves. I make no physical effort to stop anyone frome choosing, but I do support abortions in case of rape and incest. If they took away the right to choose it wouldn't bother me.


I believe that people should be allowed to decide for themselves what substances they put into their own bodies...I mean we can still drink all the Alcohol we want and smoke all the tobbaco we want as well as drink as much caffeine as we want...Why should we not do the same for everything else? Like alcohol if you are under the influence of any substance and you are impaired then you should have the same consequences as Alcohol.

M

I agree with your latter statement.

You are somewhere between conservative and moderate.

 

[smallmovesal]

i'm a fuh-laming liberal..

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

i'm a fuh-laming liberal..

why?

 

[smallmovesal]

why not?

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

I find myself to be an apolitical commentator.

If people think that I am always stating my personal opinion then they are naive.

Are you familiar with the Guatemalan poet Otto René Castillo? He wrote the incisive "Intelectuales Apoliticos" ("Apolitical Intellectuals"). Here's a good translation:


One day
the apolitical intellectuals
of our land
will be interrogated
by the poorest of people.
They will be asked what they did
while their community
was extinguished,
like a sweet fire, small and alone.

No one will ask them about their fashion sense,
or their long lunches at the faculty club.
No one will want to know about their absurd
attempts to discover "the meaning of it all."
No one will care about or even understand
their economic outlook for
"the current recession."
They will not be questioned on
Greek mythology,
nor their new age remedy for
feelings of alienation.

They'll be asked nothing about their
post-modernist justifications for apathy, concocted as self-serving lies.

On that day the simple folk will come.
Those who had no place in the
papers, books and poems of
the apolitical intellectuals,
but who produced their
food and clothes, built
their homes and cars,
who cleaned their
offices, raised their children, and cooked
their meals,
and they'll ask:

"What did you do when the poor
suffered, when tenderness and
life burned out in them?"
Apolitical intellectuals,
you will not be able answer.
A vulture of silence
will eat at your guts. Your own misery
will pick at your soul.
And you will be mute
in your shame.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

why not?

It is obvious to me that you have no clue as to why you label yourself a liberal. I have asked you time and time again about your views (just for conversation sakes during threads), yet you give me this; "I agree with what Ryan says".

So either you have no clue about the issues or you just do not want to take the time to respond. Who knows?

 

[Nitro6]

the skywalker is normally fair and balanced

 

[2Thick]

Are you familiar with the Guatemalan poet Otto René Castillo? He wrote the incisive "Intelectuales Apoliticos" ("Apolitical Intellectuals"). Here's a good translation:

Wow, I am dumbfounded!

I just discovered a newfound respect for you.

 

[smallmovesal]

It is obvious to me that you have no clue as to why you label yourself a liberal. I have asked you time and time again about your views (just for conversation sakes during threads), yet you give me this; "I agree with what Ryan says".

So either you have no clue about the issues or you just do not want to take the time to respond. Who knows?

mainly i'm brain-dead when you talk to me because it's after a long day at school... that's all. i just don't feel like getting into it... hence all my nonsense goofy threads.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

mainly i'm brain-dead when you talk to me because it's after a long day at school... that's all. i just don't feel like getting into it... hence all my nonsense goofy threads.

good enough for me

 

[smallmovesal]

i also think i debated you on health care or guns a while back.. but i actually am not big on talking politics.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

i also think i debated you on health care or guns a while back.. but i actually am not big on talking politics.

Yea you did, but you weren't much of a challenge. j/k

Yea, I can understand not wanting to talk much about politics. The same can also be said for religion. You can really find a lot out about people just by discussing these two topics. Really scares some people off.

 

[smallmovesal]

well mostly i just don't like arguing and i know i don't agree with many of the people on this board on a lot of things... and i like them regardless and would rather stay on good terms rather than possibly ruining it with a debate.

 

[Stumpy (The Fucking dumbass Piece of Shit!)]

2Thick, I just wanted to add that I did not translate it (I don't know if I made it clear or not.) Castillo was a brilliant poet - his other work is just as amazing.

 

[Frackal]

Inside your trailerpark.

aaahahhaaa

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Ryan,

I don't think your questions really are a fair measure of anything.


Abortion: should be legal. However, the government should make an effort to make women aware of other options. If you take the Supreme Court at its word that a fetus is "potentially a life", then that life could be the next Albert Einstein or FDR. So it is in our interests to present other choices to women. Let her choose, but give her choices.


Gays: Can be together all they want. Gay marriage? Sure. I couldn;t care less. Benefits for same sex life partners. OK. But make it just as paperwork intensive as it is for hetero couples to get benfits: marriage certificates etc. Treat them as married. In the event of divorce, go through the courts, etc.


Drugs: legalize ASAP.


Environment: Measures should be taken to preserve. Known damaging substances should be banned. However, man has been recording weather and atmosphere conditions for the last 200 years or so. Our frame of reference is insufficient.

10,000 years ago it was really cold. 4 billion years ago it was really really hot. We must use the knwodege we HAVE, and not speculate on this.


Morality: This is for parents to teach their children, not for the government to dictate. People love to blame things on moral decline. It is a nice way to not accept any blame yourself.


Social Security: Needs to be re-thought. While it is a nice idea, it really needs a hard-core analysis. If I continue to pay the amount I pay, and retire at 65, I would have to live several hundred years to "get my share".

I do not think the government can do better with my money than I can. How about making it optional?

 

[2Thick]

Ryan,

I don't think your questions really are a fair measure of anything.


Abortion: should be legal. However, the government should make an effort to make women aware of other options. If you take the Supreme Court at its word that a fetus is "potentially a life", then that life could be the next Albert Einstein or FDR. So it is in our interests to present other choices to women. Let her choose, but give her choices.


Gays: Can be together all they want. Gay marriage? Sure. I couldn;t care less. Benefits for same sex life partners. OK. But make it just as paperwork intensive as it is for hetero couples to get benfits: marriage certificates etc. Treat them as married. In the event of divorce, go through the courts, etc.


Drugs: legalize ASAP.


Environment: Measures should be taken to preserve. Known damaging substances should be banned. However, man has been recording weather and atmosphere conditions for the last 200 years or so. Our frame of reference is insufficient.

10,000 years ago it was really cold. 4 billion years ago it was really really hot. We must use the knwodege we HAVE, and not speculate on this.


Morality: This is for parents to teach their children, not for the government to dictate. People love to blame things on moral decline. It is a nice way to not accept any blame yourself.


Social Security: Needs to be re-thought. While it is a nice idea, it really needs a hard-core analysis. If I continue to pay the amount I pay, and retire at 65, I would have to live several hundred years to "get my share".

I do not think the government can do better with my money than I can. How about making it optional?

I hate to say it but I gotta agree with the Skywalker...

 

[Freak Show]

I consider myself A-political.

 

[Frackal]

Ryan,

I don't think your questions really are a fair measure of anything.


Abortion: should be legal. However, the government should make an effort to make women aware of other options. If you take the Supreme Court at its word that a fetus is "potentially a life", then that life could be the next Albert Einstein or FDR. So it is in our interests to present other choices to women. Let her choose, but give her choices.


Gays: Can be together all they want. Gay marriage? Sure. I couldn;t care less. Benefits for same sex life partners. OK. But make it just as paperwork intensive as it is for hetero couples to get benfits: marriage certificates etc. Treat them as married. In the event of divorce, go through the courts, etc.


Drugs: legalize ASAP.


Environment: Measures should be taken to preserve. Known damaging substances should be banned. However, man has been recording weather and atmosphere conditions for the last 200 years or so. Our frame of reference is insufficient.

10,000 years ago it was really cold. 4 billion years ago it was really really hot. We must use the knwodege we HAVE, and not speculate on this.


Morality: This is for parents to teach their children, not for the government to dictate. People love to blame things on moral decline. It is a nice way to not accept any blame yourself.


Social Security: Needs to be re-thought. While it is a nice idea, it really needs a hard-core analysis. If I continue to pay the amount I pay, and retire at 65, I would have to live several hundred years to "get my share".

I do not think the government can do better with my money than I can. How about making it optional?

Wow Matt..in a non-asskissing kind of way, I agree with that one hundred percent.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

2Thick,

Hate to say it huh? I love to hear it.


Frackal,

How would that sound in an ass-kissing way?



These things are easy. People make it hard.

 

[whatwasthat?]

Inside your trailerpark.

 

[whatwasthat?]

Not in the United States of America.

Please inform me why I should have to pay for someone's healtcare. We have had this discussion many time before. The canadian system sucks. It is abused to no end, thus meaning the really ill are less likely to be treated with timely care.

You should pay for someone's else healthcare because some people have not been as fortunate as you and do not have themeans to pay for their won medical treatment.

You never know what is in stock for you in your future....

 

[Punschkrapfen]

if you wanna know where you stand, then take the questionnaire here: http://www.politicalcompass.org/. As they do, i also think that the simple one-dimensional left-right categorization ist not able to tell about someone's political beliefs. This

is a much better system to show where you stand.

I am with Milton Friedman (Economic Left/Right: 8.00; Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.62). Post your score.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

You should pay for someone's else healthcare because some people have not been as fortunate as you and do not have themeans to pay for their won medical treatment.

You never know what is in stock for you in your future....

You are kidding right? Would you also like for me to pay for their food, clothing, or housing? How about their crack habit or 35 kids?

Give me a break...

 

[whatwasthat?]

You are kidding right? Would you also like for me to pay for their food, clothing, or housing? How about their crack habit or 35 kids?

Give me a break...

Actually no I am not kidding... Developed countries are rich enough to provide health care and decent housing to everyone.

Of course there are limits to that but I had rather pay more taxes and know that every NON VIOLENT person is taken care off than saving a little more money and having people die of illness in the street.

Regarding food, shelter and clothing, I think that everyone should have the right to decent conditions. Nothing luxurious or nice, just decent.

"35 kids" is a problem but if you help and educate these 35 kids maybe they will not have "30 kids" themselves and will not develop a "crack habit"...

As I said it is only "maybe" but if you do not help them you can be sure that they will turn into crack addicts and will have "35 kids"

When I hear that Bill Gates alone is richer than the 100 millions poorest Americans it makes me think that something is wrong...

Now I am all for capitalism and Bill Gates can be proud and say fuck off to all his detractors but the figures are not right....

----

 

[Mandinka]

0.38 on Economics.
Authoriterian/Libertarian: -3.95.

That's funny , I would have always felt that most people in my country regarded me as on the extreme right of economic policy (do not believe in the existence of a welfare state) and quite authoriterian (against abortion/drugs/gay adoption legalisation). Well mercy me , I'm a tree-huggin hippy after all!

 

[manny78]

You are kidding right? Would you also like for me to pay for their food, clothing, or housing? How about their crack habit or 35 kids?

Give me a break...

Red Neck....

 

[bigguns7]

The reason Hillary Clinton failed is because the big insurance companies were scared shitless, and did everything in their power to make sure they will continue to have the right to price gouge all Americans.

In short, money defeated a person's right to healthcare. But we still have hope that someday all Americans will have universal healthcare.

You're exactly right. Money did defeat the universal healthcare system. Do you know what keeps this nation alive? It's that money. You're exactly right that the big insurance companies were scared shitless. They'd like to stay in business. And if you knew anything about our nation's economy, you'd want them to stay in business too. I guess you didn't know that insurance and reinsurance firms hold the vast majority of our nation's liquid and semi-liquid capital. Do you know what would happen if the big insurers started going down? They'd sell off the hundreds of billions of dollars of stocks they own, and then we'd spiral into a depression.

So RyanH, practice what you preach, look at both sides of the coin.

 

[WODIN]

Yeah I geuss you could say I'm a moderate....

 

[Puc]

political issues like those often seem to arise from boredom... we all seem to get along so much better and are willing to compromise quicker when there is common enemy to hate... like now...

politicians have become affable... the national anthem is covered by bar bands... ryan agrees with dubya... 2thick agrees with matt... lets all hug...

 

[smallmovesal]

it says i'm -5.88 econ left and -7.64 left libertarian

that's a bit below ghandi on the graph...

 

[Punschkrapfen]

0.38 on Economics.
Authoriterian/Libertarian: -3.95.

That's funny , I would have always felt that most people in my country regarded me as on the extreme right of economic policy (do not believe in the existence of a welfare state) and quite authoriterian (against abortion/drugs/gay adoption legalisation). Well mercy me , I'm a tree-huggin hippy after all!

Europe has different standards. I posted this on a german board a couple of months ago and almost all were negative on the econ scale. You are a bit too right to qualify as a hippy though
On the other side, i am pro-choice, pro-drugs and would let gays adopt. Where am i authoritarian?

 

[Zebo]

If possessing the ability to recognize bullshit from both conservatives and liberals counts, then I would be considered a moderate. I can see both sides of the coin, especially when the coin is firmly entrenched in bullshit.

I can roll my eyes at both sides with equal enthusiasm.......

 

[Punschkrapfen]

it says i'm -5.88 econ left and -7.64 left libertarian

that's a bit below ghandi on the graph...

i would have guessed those numbers from your previous posts. Nevertheless, you make a good example for the fact that it is wrong to just label somebody liberal or conservative. If we would keep the one-dimensional chart, then we should disagree on almost everything, since i am extreme right and you are very much on the left side. But since we are on the same libertarian side, we should agree on pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-drugs and things like that. This 2-dimensional system helped me to explain these anomalies.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Red Neck....

This obviously proves that your argument is weak.

Good day.

 

[smallmovesal]

i would have guessed those numbers from your previous posts. Nevertheless, you make a good example for the fact that it is wrong to just label somebody liberal or conservative. If we would keep the one-dimensional chart, then we should disagree on almost everything, since i am extreme right and you are very much on the left side. But since we are on the same libertarian side, we should agree on pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-drugs and things like that. This 2-dimensional system helped me to explain these anomalies.

that test was really interesting for sure... and looking at the recommended authors, i saw noam chomsky and others that i like...

 

[RyanH]

bump

 

[smallmovesal]

did you do the test ryan? i'd expect you'd have a similar result to mine.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

This is where I stand on the chart

 

[PHATchik]

-2.38 on Economics
-0.67 on Authoritarian

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

I'm an American. I'm not a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or supporter of any other political group. I'm not a conservative, moderate, or liberal. As far as I'm concerned this parties should be burned at the stake. None of them give a shit about the American people. They all have their political agendas. Which includes money and power. Give the power back to the people. Vote these fuckers out that dont give a shit about us.

 

[bigschweeler]

haha

This is kinda funny actually. Hardly anyone got too pissed off (except a couple of notable exceptions) and many people agree about some of these topics.

Abortion - certainly don't want to encourage it, but it has to be available for victims of rape or incest. In other cases, grow a brain and use protection or assume the responsibility.

Environment - I think someone said that he'd rather look at a tree than a split-level. Right on.

Gays - absolutely fine with me. Neither I nor anyone else has a right to control one's sexuality as long as it is consensual.

Social security - all I got a say is at least there is a cap on the amount they take out per year.

What does that make me? Who knows, who cares. I care about people and that's good enough.

 

[absolute hardgainer]

Well, I try to tell people that I'm a commie... but they can see through that one pretty quickly.

I really don't know what label I fit. I tend to laugh at everybody - except at motherfucking terrorists, shoot those bastards before they get on anymore airplanes.

hardgainer (I'm just me, ok.... ?! :-/)

 

[HelenSL]

I was at this GOP picnic thingy...a few people asked about my politics (a few people know that's not really 'me' ) so I thought I'd give it a go saying I was a commie...

I can't remember what they said...I think they weren't paying much attention to be honest. Or maybe they just assumed I was kidding.

I think I'd vote for the person who seemed most authentic, regardless of party...well maybe not. I don't have to decide for a while . I'll see when it happens...

love
Helen

 

[litig8r]

HMMMMM

ABORTION:
I believe that abortion is a sin BUT I do not believe in legislating morals. It is my responsibility as a Christian to try and prevent abortion through my faith, not through the law (or violence).

Death PENALTY
I support it. I have put three men on death row personally.

GAYS
What one does in the privacy of their home is their business. I do not believe they should be afforded the 'protected' status afforded races, gender, or religion nor do I believe that same sex marriage should be recognized nor afforded the same protection as heterosexual marriage.

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
Does no good. Abolish any remnants.

GUN CONTROL
Let everyone have at least one gun. Let them carry it and use it.

DRUGS
Legalize with the following provisions:
The government will have an absolute monopoly on the sale of drugs.
Anyone who commits a crime 1) under the influence of 2) in possession of, or 3) to obtain drugs will be sentenced to mandatory life sentence without parole.
Anyone who uses what are now illegal drugs waive all government entitlements including welfare benefits and health care. (We will bury them in an appropriate paupers grave)
Anyone caught selling drugs will be subject to capital punishment.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
The government should not sponsor any religion NOR should it interfere with the private exercise of ones faith. That means: no prayers on the PA system at football games but a moment of silence for attendees to evoke any of none of their favorite (G)gods. Children should be allowed to prey in school or not. It should not be forced not prohibited. We must recognize that we are a country based on Diest doctrine and not try to rewrite history and ignore those facts.

ENVIRONMENT
Should be protected but not at the cost of human lives. We can drill for oil in a responsible way. We should not let some fucking frog determine if people will have heating oil this winter. We must understand that people are more important than some subspecies of rodents. some shit must die.

ECONOMICS
Keep government out as much as possible. If America's corporations are making money, we are making money. If it can be privatized, then do it. Government is a crappy business manager and they do not know how to handle money. Tax cuts should be equal in percentage across the board. I would like to see a national sales tax and the abolition of the income tax (works here in Texas).


I have been elected to public office 3 times. Once as a Democrat and twice as a republican. I think I am a moderate Republican.

hasta

litig8r