While cutting...why weight train?

[holloway]

Stupid question I know, so I must be missing something.

First, you're not going to be gaining any muscle.
Second, you're not eating a whole lot of protein to repair the muscle.

I've been working out for past 6 months and i'm starting CKD tomorrow, of course i'll weight train since I know I have to, but I don't understand why. From Mr. X's CKD guide you train to like at least 80% of your potential on Mon/Tue, then on the 6th and early 7th you do a lot of low weight/high reps. Someone fill me in here, I don't want to overtrain and screw something up.

 

[westsnoop]

I think it's a good question. The most obvious answer is to deplete glycogen stores. I've had some people swear to me that they are gainining muscle while ketogenic dieting, and I've read that that doesn't happen--the diet is good for preserving muscle, but not for building it. Any experts got an opinion?

 

[westsnoop]

Another follow up question: A woman insisted to me that even though she's been in a stall on her Atkins diet, she must be replacing the fat with a lot of muscle because her clothes fit better. It seems unlikely that she could have gained an appreciable amount of muscle during a month long diet stall. Or can she?

 

[overhead]

While on my keto diet I found that there were many times I did not lose weight on the scale, but inches went down. I am not sure why it happened, but it did. I did weight training while on a keto diet, but stuck to all compound exercise to burn more calories and try to build core strength. I do not think I put on any muscle, but i did get stronger. Some people say that higher rep, with less time between sets (30 seconds or less) burns fat better than cardio. I do not know enough about the science behind it, but I did find I burned more fat while doing both cardio and compound weights at the same time. That sounds sort of strange, I do not mean I was doing clean and presses while jogging in place

 

[PancakeFiend]

maintain muscle mass, if you don't routinely train the muscle then the body thinks it's just a waste of good protein and then the muscle starts to atrophy. but if you over train, then well you're setting yourself up for poor recovery and loss of mass. It's a fine line.

 

[beastboy]

I believe you can gain muscle....albeit harder, I think it is possible.

 

[stabber]

I weight train while cutting to maintain muscles, and help burn fat. There are specific enzymes in your muscles I believe, that burn fat. Even in resting

 

[KWKSLVR]

Well, it also depends on how much you have to begin with. If your untrained like me, then yeah, your going to gain a little.

It all boils down to your protein intake. Hell, I probably take in near 160 grams a day, at least, which I think is in ok amount for a roughly 3000 cal/day diet. Salmon is your friend. Hell, my salmon meal has 100grams of protein in it alone.

 

[FatRat]

If you are eating 160g's a day of protein, I dont think having 100 of them in one sitting is a very good approach if you are trying to avoid going catabolic.

Would be better to spread this out...

 

[westsnoop]

if you eat alot of protien you can still gain muscle right....better be true...im eating an 800 daily cal deficite for the next few weeks, i have to drop 5lbs.

I'm not an expert, but I've read that an excess of protien can be converted to glucose in a ketogenic diet. If that's true, it defeats the purpose of the diet--fat should be the majority of calories. That's the loose formula I've been useing when running a calorie deficeit and it seems to work fine.