What's the minimum protein intake?

[IronLion]

High protein is pretty important, but the body DOES ADJUST to higher levels of protein. Everything's designed to promote homeostasis (keeping the body from changing.) So when you eat ungodly amounts of protein, the body comes to expect more protein and increases the protein turnover rate. This effect has been investigated, do a search for some articles on protein cycling to see that adaptation effect.

-casual

agreed which is why I belive in a fast day once a month and a low protein day every 10 or so days

 

[The Red Man]

I've seen 200 pound bulk monsters come out of jail and they're DEFINATELY not getting no 1.5-2 grams per lb of protein in the big house.

Bottom line you need protein but not no 2 grams per pound, tha't just so rediculous.

 

[bigp3]

that is the biggest bunch of crap i have heard that you don't need high protein to get big. Maybe if you are natty you cannot process 2 grams per lb but I guarantee if you are loaded to the hilt and get 2 grams you will notice the difference. Another thing,,, you noticed that all these guys that are saying high protein is not needed are not all that big.... Hmmm wonder what the connection is???

Any guys out there pushing 3 bills that get only 1 gram per lb year round? I would love to meet them

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

bigp3::Any guys out there pushing 3 bills that get only 1 gram per lb year round? I would love to meet them

Doggcrapp:: in 14 years of lifting and interviewing too many over 260lb bodybuilders to count--ive seen 2. Thats it.
Paul Dillett and Nassir El Sombaty (in the last couple years)--Nassir hasnt gained muscle since about 97, and Paul is a genetic freakazoid---so if people reading this believe they have Sombaty and Dillett genetics please be my guest and eat 1 gram per lb of bodyweight. Whats amazing is 90% of the very large bodybuilders ive talked to or interviewed over the years said a big mistake they made was not getting in enough protein and when they did they finally took off---yet I see so many guys weighing a buck 80 saying its not neccessary. If "juiced to the hilt" guys have some trouble gaining huge amounts of mass with low protein intake what the hell do you think is going on if your clean?

 

[casualbb]

casual, you're looking mighty lean and ripped in your avatar. Post some full pics?

Maybe after I diet a little more ... lol, I'm really not big at all, I just have good genetics for muscle shape and a fast metabolism.

in 14 years of lifting and interviewing too many over 260lb bodybuilders to count--ive seen 2. Thats it.
Paul Dillett and Nassir El Sombaty (in the last couple years)--Nassir hasnt gained muscle since about 97, and Paul is a genetic freakazoid

Well that I agree with. When somebody's juicing they obviously need more protein because protein synthesis across the entire body is jacked up. I think for your average Joe Blow 1g/pound is fine. That's already like 2-3 times the recommended daily allowance. I guess what it boils down to is that "All the big guys do it" isn't enough justification for me. I'd rather just get 1g/pound of protein and eat a big calorie surplus in carbs and fats, and it's definitely worked in the past.

-casual

 

[Debaser]

Casual you look great, to be honest. But DC has always suggested when you think you've hit your plateau in size, try bumping up your protein to 2x your bw and often you will continue gaining. He has witnessed this with a lot of people.

If I were you, I'd try just doing it for a month (following DC's diet recommendations) just to see what happens. Hell a month is nothing in the big scheme of your training career Let me know if you want assistance, I know the diet inside and out.

 

[casualbb]

Ya know what? Hell, why not. I'll do it. I'm gonna start bulking again probably around mid-july. That should give me exatly a month before I have to head off for school again and eating will be tougher.

-casual